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What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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  • J jasondj@lemmy.zip
    6 Jun 2025, 04:45

    So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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    retrogoblet79@eviltoast.org
    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 06:45 last edited by
    #68

    They know I use Linux and that means they know too much

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    • B blindfrog@lemmy.world
      6 Jun 2025, 01:26

      Precise location information? Wtf for?

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      outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 06:46 last edited by outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 Jun 2025, 02:47
      #69

      Oh honey, what's any of it for?

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      • D dagamant@lemmy.world
        5 Jun 2025, 22:34

        Unless you use Linux, your OS knows a ton about you. On top of that, with root access to your computer they can do whatever they want and if their system gets hacked you become a member of a bot farm or crypto mine.

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        nephalis@discuss.tchncs.de
        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 06:48 last edited by
        #70

        Well I use Linux, but not on my gaming pc. I would switch to it because its all amd, but I don't want to because it lacks the driver suite for my gpu (adrenaline) and I don't want to install a bunch of small applications to gain a small fraction of options it offers.

        It's a pitty. Because I realy want to ditch windows since its newest iteration.

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        • J jackbydev@programming.dev
          6 Jun 2025, 00:40

          What are you arguing with? I don't see your comment as contradictory to theirs at all.

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          red@sopuli.xyz
          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 06:51 last edited by red@sopuli.xyz 6 Jun 2025, 02:53
          #71

          I guess his premise, that it's for edgy teens. Heck, half the pop references were ancient on launch.

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          • K keckbug@lemmy.world
            5 Jun 2025, 22:37

            The first felt really fresh at the time. FPS was dominated by various milsim shooters and Halo, and the irreverence and clever cell shading style worked well.

            Two dialed things up in scope and scale and added some nice environmental variety.

            But the rest? The presequel? The 3rd? I just couldn’t. It was more of the same, tired, repetitive, the jokes started really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I had fun early on, but I’m out.

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            mrscottytay@sh.itjust.works
            wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:06 last edited by mrscottytay@sh.itjust.works 6 Jun 2025, 03:07
            #72

            I loved the gameplay of pre sequel. But the writing for that was constantly throwing me for a loop on how any of it was greenlit. I didn't mind the writing in 1 and 2, I got a few chuckles out of that. Pre sequel just made me groan, moan and yawn.

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            • B blindfrog@lemmy.world
              6 Jun 2025, 01:26

              Precise location information? Wtf for?

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              nib@lemmy.world
              wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:11 last edited by
              #73

              They use the same terms of service for mobile games and they just dont bother to change it for pc games.

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              • V vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
                5 Jun 2025, 22:14

                Most people don't care about privacy.

                Most people in the western civilized world are on Facebook, so...

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                blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
                wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:20 last edited by
                #74

                but ask those same people whether facebook should be allowed to collect and use all that data, and people will generally say 'no'.

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                • G goodeye8@piefed.social
                  5 Jun 2025, 18:24

                  I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

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                  vinstaal0@feddit.nl
                  wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:41 last edited by
                  #75

                  Do we know this is a thing in the EU?

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                  • C couldbealeotard@lemmy.world
                    6 Jun 2025, 06:29

                    I just saw an advertisement for a custom T-shirt:
                    "That's right, I'm a December dad, who lives at 62a, with size 10 feet and prescription glasses..."

                    /S

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                    blindfrog@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:47 last edited by
                    #76

                    "By scrolling past, you agree to sharing with us (and our affiliates) the following collected data types: ..."

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                    • N nib@lemmy.world
                      6 Jun 2025, 07:11

                      They use the same terms of service for mobile games and they just dont bother to change it for pc games.

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                      blindfrog@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 07:48 last edited by
                      #77

                      This mistake makes sense to make as a mistake. But also, that's fuckin asinine

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                      • B buboscandiacus@mander.xyz
                        5 Jun 2025, 19:46

                        Don't just review bomb it

                        Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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                        acesfullofkings@feddit.uk
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 08:24 last edited by acesfullofkings@feddit.uk 6 Jun 2025, 08:11
                        #78

                        Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


                        ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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                        • D drgrout@lemmynsfw.com
                          6 Jun 2025, 02:18

                          Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Owns Rockstar Games, Zynga and 2K. So if that's all their games, it includes at least these: Bioshock series, Borderlands series, Civilization series, Grand Theft Auto series, Mafia series, Max Payne series, NBA 2K series, PGA Tour 2K series, Red Dead series, WWE 2K series and XCOM series.

                          Amazing stuff!

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                          damdy@lemm.ee
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 08:24 last edited by
                          #79

                          That's just a list of games that used to be good and now suck.

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                          • A acesfullofkings@feddit.uk
                            6 Jun 2025, 08:24

                            Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


                            ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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                            buboscandiacus@mander.xyz
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:12 last edited by
                            #80

                            Steam has a history of removing things people don't like (for example: banning ad-ridden games)

                            So if all these reports can bring them to add this to their TOS, it's worth it

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                            • J jasondj@lemmy.zip
                              6 Jun 2025, 04:45

                              So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                              mentaledge@sopuli.xyz
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:17 last edited by
                              #81

                              Not a lot. Even when it isn't a flatpak windows software running on linux won't be able to interact with the system anywhere near as deeply as on windows.

                              They'll be able to tell it's linux, though.

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                              • O onyxonblack@lemm.ee
                                5 Jun 2025, 21:15

                                I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                                mentaledge@sopuli.xyz
                                wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:22 last edited by
                                #82

                                I'm sorry, but Battleborn was brilliant. Deadlock is the first game to re-capture (and expand on) the mix of mechanics Battleborn put together.

                                Didn't stop Gearbox from shutting it down so that no-one who bought it could ever play again. Not even the story campaign.

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                                • W w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
                                  6 Jun 2025, 04:29

                                  Is this because Embracer sold Borderlands to Take-Two last year?

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                                  zecg@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:23 last edited by
                                  #83

                                  It's because Take Two came out with a fuck-you-in-the-ass EULA for all their games. I actually look forward to boycotting someone, there's too much free and discounted shit everywhere

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                                  • T tomi000@lemmy.world
                                    5 Jun 2025, 21:11

                                    They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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                                    ensignpacts@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:44 last edited by
                                    #84

                                    I doubt it though, the game will be 13 years old this year. It wouldn’t make financial sense for them to bother.

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                                    • J jasondj@lemmy.zip
                                      6 Jun 2025, 04:45

                                      So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                                      squizzy@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 10:39 last edited by
                                      #85

                                      New to linux...are flatpaks like sandboxed?

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                                        5 Jun 2025, 17:45
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                                        radiofreearabia@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 10:43 last edited by
                                        #86

                                        I didn't enjoy the Handsome Collection but free is free. Thanks for sharing.

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                                        • S squizzy@lemmy.world
                                          6 Jun 2025, 10:39

                                          New to linux...are flatpaks like sandboxed?

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                                          iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 10:44 last edited by
                                          #87

                                          Sort of. They can be, but are not always.

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