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What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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  • lemjukes@lemm.eeL [email protected]

    A bit more than what, not really sure what your point here is? All of those bullet points are similar if not identical to terms in other EULAs half the people in this thread have already clicked thru.

    I’ll say it again, if you think this is anything new you haven’t been paying attention. I’m all for calling this fuckery out and pushing for something better. But like where yall been?

    Still no actual answers from anyone on how this is ‘more’ than what I described in my op. Sure it’s a more detailed list, but it’s really not the “gotcha” everyone seems to think it is. That is, if youve been paying attention.

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    If more folks are waking up and shaking a stick at it or doing something but blindly click through (thus legally unenforceable) EULAs I'm all for it.

    Better late than never.

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    • lemjukes@lemm.eeL [email protected]
      • Did the EULA change? ✅
      • Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌
      • Do Take Two games contain code to report telemetry and user information(including application/system activity) to a home server? ✅
      • Is this EULA change extraordinary and particularly egregious in comparison to others that most people have probably already agreed to? ❌(IMO)
      • Are people riled up because e a YouTube video went a little viral and now they’re all playing telephone to the point where it’s now gotten to the point of random dumdums are review booming a 13 year old game claiming it’s turned into literal spyware? ✅(again, IMO)
      • Should you be surprised by any of this if you’ve been even remotely paying attention for any period of the last 30-40 years? ❌
      • Do we need more than just angry idiots in the battle against corpatocracy? ✅

      We should be done coddling the late comers at this point. Yes welcome them and accept them, but at a certain point your level of ignorance became a detriment to your community and you should be made aware of that fact.

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      So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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        • vortexal@sopuli.xyzV [email protected]

          Is it not fully compatible with newer versions of Linux? All the gameplay and comparison videos I've seen look identical to the Windows version. I'd test it myself but I'm pretty sure my computer doesn't have the hardware to run it even on low settings.

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          I played it sometime toward the end of last year using proton. I'll have to try it again.

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          • O [email protected]

            I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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            everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit

            OpFor was good, Blue Shift was alright too.

            Everything since they stole the whole idea of Borderlands has been bad though.

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            • lemjukes@lemm.eeL [email protected]

              Hyper Localized Advertising. Welcome to the future 😞

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              I just saw an advertisement for a custom T-shirt:
              "That's right, I'm a December dad, who lives at 62a, with size 10 feet and prescription glasses..."

              /S

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              • J [email protected]

                So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                They know I use Linux and that means they know too much

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                • B [email protected]

                  Precise location information? Wtf for?

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                  Oh honey, what's any of it for?

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                  • D [email protected]

                    Unless you use Linux, your OS knows a ton about you. On top of that, with root access to your computer they can do whatever they want and if their system gets hacked you become a member of a bot farm or crypto mine.

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                    Well I use Linux, but not on my gaming pc. I would switch to it because its all amd, but I don't want to because it lacks the driver suite for my gpu (adrenaline) and I don't want to install a bunch of small applications to gain a small fraction of options it offers.

                    It's a pitty. Because I realy want to ditch windows since its newest iteration.

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                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                      What are you arguing with? I don't see your comment as contradictory to theirs at all.

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                      I guess his premise, that it's for edgy teens. Heck, half the pop references were ancient on launch.

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                        The first felt really fresh at the time. FPS was dominated by various milsim shooters and Halo, and the irreverence and clever cell shading style worked well.

                        Two dialed things up in scope and scale and added some nice environmental variety.

                        But the rest? The presequel? The 3rd? I just couldn’t. It was more of the same, tired, repetitive, the jokes started really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I had fun early on, but I’m out.

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                        I loved the gameplay of pre sequel. But the writing for that was constantly throwing me for a loop on how any of it was greenlit. I didn't mind the writing in 1 and 2, I got a few chuckles out of that. Pre sequel just made me groan, moan and yawn.

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                          Precise location information? Wtf for?

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                          They use the same terms of service for mobile games and they just dont bother to change it for pc games.

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                          • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                            Most people don't care about privacy.

                            Most people in the western civilized world are on Facebook, so...

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                            but ask those same people whether facebook should be allowed to collect and use all that data, and people will generally say 'no'.

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                              I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

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                              Do we know this is a thing in the EU?

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                              • couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                I just saw an advertisement for a custom T-shirt:
                                "That's right, I'm a December dad, who lives at 62a, with size 10 feet and prescription glasses..."

                                /S

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                                "By scrolling past, you agree to sharing with us (and our affiliates) the following collected data types: ..."

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                                  They use the same terms of service for mobile games and they just dont bother to change it for pc games.

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                                  This mistake makes sense to make as a mistake. But also, that's fuckin asinine

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                                  • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                                    Don't just review bomb it

                                    Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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                                    Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


                                    ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Owns Rockstar Games, Zynga and 2K. So if that's all their games, it includes at least these: Bioshock series, Borderlands series, Civilization series, Grand Theft Auto series, Mafia series, Max Payne series, NBA 2K series, PGA Tour 2K series, Red Dead series, WWE 2K series and XCOM series.

                                      Amazing stuff!

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                                      That's just a list of games that used to be good and now suck.

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                                      • A [email protected]

                                        Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


                                        ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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                                        Steam has a history of removing things people don't like (for example: banning ad-ridden games)

                                        So if all these reports can bring them to add this to their TOS, it's worth it

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                                        • J [email protected]

                                          So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                                          Not a lot. Even when it isn't a flatpak windows software running on linux won't be able to interact with the system anywhere near as deeply as on windows.

                                          They'll be able to tell it's linux, though.

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