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  3. What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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  • G [email protected]

    I haven't read the new TOS but if this review is correct it looks like a GDPR nightmare for them. Good luck to them explaining why they need to collect all that personal data.

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    Do we know this is a thing in the EU?

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    • couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

      I just saw an advertisement for a custom T-shirt:
      "That's right, I'm a December dad, who lives at 62a, with size 10 feet and prescription glasses..."

      /S

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      "By scrolling past, you agree to sharing with us (and our affiliates) the following collected data types: ..."

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      • N [email protected]

        They use the same terms of service for mobile games and they just dont bother to change it for pc games.

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        This mistake makes sense to make as a mistake. But also, that's fuckin asinine

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        • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

          Don't just review bomb it

          Report it to steam as SPYWARE, with the little flag icon on the product page

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          Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


          ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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          • D [email protected]

            Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. Owns Rockstar Games, Zynga and 2K. So if that's all their games, it includes at least these: Bioshock series, Borderlands series, Civilization series, Grand Theft Auto series, Mafia series, Max Payne series, NBA 2K series, PGA Tour 2K series, Red Dead series, WWE 2K series and XCOM series.

            Amazing stuff!

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            That's just a list of games that used to be good and now suck.

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            • A [email protected]

              Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


              ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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              Steam has a history of removing things people don't like (for example: banning ad-ridden games)

              So if all these reports can bring them to add this to their TOS, it's worth it

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              • J [email protected]

                So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                Not a lot. Even when it isn't a flatpak windows software running on linux won't be able to interact with the system anywhere near as deeply as on windows.

                They'll be able to tell it's linux, though.

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                • O [email protected]

                  I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                  I'm sorry, but Battleborn was brilliant. Deadlock is the first game to re-capture (and expand on) the mix of mechanics Battleborn put together.

                  Didn't stop Gearbox from shutting it down so that no-one who bought it could ever play again. Not even the story campaign.

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                  • W [email protected]

                    Is this because Embracer sold Borderlands to Take-Two last year?

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                    It's because Take Two came out with a fuck-you-in-the-ass EULA for all their games. I actually look forward to boycotting someone, there's too much free and discounted shit everywhere

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                    • T [email protected]

                      They can drop updates anytime after they made sure to have you accept the spyware.

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                      I doubt it though, the game will be 13 years old this year. It wouldn’t make financial sense for them to bother.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?

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                        New to linux...are flatpaks like sandboxed?

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                          I didn't enjoy the Handsome Collection but free is free. Thanks for sharing.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            New to linux...are flatpaks like sandboxed?

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                            Sort of. They can be, but are not always.

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                            • lemjukes@lemm.eeL [email protected]

                              A bit more than what, not really sure what your point here is? All of those bullet points are similar if not identical to terms in other EULAs half the people in this thread have already clicked thru.

                              I’ll say it again, if you think this is anything new you haven’t been paying attention. I’m all for calling this fuckery out and pushing for something better. But like where yall been?

                              Still no actual answers from anyone on how this is ‘more’ than what I described in my op. Sure it’s a more detailed list, but it’s really not the “gotcha” everyone seems to think it is. That is, if youve been paying attention.

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                              I see this kind of comment before and I will never understand it - "other companies do it so just bend over and let us do it to you too!"

                              People say this all the time about Denuvo too: "Other games already have Denuvo, why are you crying about it here when you're playing other games?"

                              And see, that's the problem - we aren't playing those other Denuvo games. And same thing applies here, guess what, a lot of us aren't buying games from gross companies like EA with these shit terms. So when a company we are doing business with suddenly changes their terms to be shit, that's a valid complaint. Some of us have already been boycotting bad business practices in the industry, so the idea of company changing terms towards the boycott after we've already invested in the game feels like a betrayal because it is.

                              So maybe stop focusing on what you assume the rest of audience is doing and instead go back to focusing on what the people at the goddamn podium are trying to pull?

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                              • B [email protected]

                                This mistake makes sense to make as a mistake. But also, that's fuckin asinine

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                                It isn't a mistake. Writing different EULA for each game costs more money than writing an overly aggressive one that covers most cases.

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                                • A [email protected]

                                  Are they actually likely to remove it for this reason? Or is this just wasting the time of people who have to deal with reports at Steam? Like have they actually done something against Steam's TOS?


                                  ^edit: wow, a whole flock of Owls in the replies.^

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                                  absolutely. Steam is not to mess with and takes such matters quite seriously.

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                                    New to linux...are flatpaks like sandboxed?

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                                    They are somewhat isolated but not sandboxed.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      That's just a list of games that used to be good and now suck.

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                                      I object to that for XCOM

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                                        🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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                                          Don’t speak I’ll of steam and billionaire Gabe around here. The steam bros are gonna crucify you for daring to even think ill of THEIR corporation and THEIR billionaire who of course loves and cares for them all.

                                          Edit: there it is 🤣

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