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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    20 May 2025, 18:10
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    the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
    wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:46 last edited by
    #103

    It's like they don't understand how piracy works.

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    • T technomad@slrpnk.net
      21 May 2025, 11:28

      I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it's probably a pretty shit game anyway right?

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      vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
      wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:07 last edited by
      #104

      If it being Borderlands 4 wasn't enough of a tip considering the stellar writing we had on pre-sequel and 3.

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      • E earworm@lemmy.world
        21 May 2025, 09:43

        TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.

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        tomi000@lemmy.world
        wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:14 last edited by
        #105

        They become pirates if necessary.

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        • L lootboblin@lemmy.world
          21 May 2025, 09:09

          I got bored with Borderlands 3 in one hour. Copy pasta gameplay and I’m tired of the art style and humor. I only paid a fiver but I wish I had bought a burger instead.

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          anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
          wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:22 last edited by
          #106

          I thought Borderlands was lots of fun, but not four games (for now) and a movie (for now) worth of fun. Even two games was pushing it a bit. You can only stretch things out so much.

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          • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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            alexaralvarado@infosec.pub
            wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:28 last edited by
            #107

            I've found a way to play every Borderlands game, 2 is my fave, and not pay more than 12 usd, for the 3rd one which I didn't even get halfway through 'cause it's boring AF - I love Steam sales and don't have FOMO

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            • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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              jigglysackles@lemmy.world
              wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:32 last edited by
              #108

              Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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              • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                21 May 2025, 11:42

                Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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                theneverfox@pawb.social
                wrote on 21 May 2025, 14:13 last edited by
                #109

                You say what project they'll be transitioning to as less and less bug fixes are necessary. Could even be dlc

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                • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                  21 May 2025, 11:42

                  Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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                  fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
                  wrote on 21 May 2025, 14:42 last edited by
                  #110

                  Game development should not be a gig economy. It is often treated as such so studio execs can pocket more money by dropping staff at release to pad their own wallets. There are plenty of game companies, and millions of companies in other sectors, that reinvest that capital into the company.

                  But what about other forms of entertainment? Movies! Books! Music!

                  Royalties. This would be another solution.

                  Tagging @theneverfox@pawb.social because they might find the thought of royalties vs continued Dev interesting.

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                  • D delphia@lemmy.world
                    21 May 2025, 11:17

                    This has always been my counterpoint for the Nintendo haters when they complain about price. (Although they are a shit company in several other ways) Because when my daughter wants a new switch game if its a top tier Nintendo title its going to be a finished game with zero bugs and zero concern about problematic content for me.

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                    sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                    wrote on 21 May 2025, 15:00 last edited by
                    #111

                    Exactly. That's why I buy Nintendo games near release and am patient for PC games.

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                    • B brsrklf@jlai.lu
                      21 May 2025, 07:45

                      No, no, you don't understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.

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                      exusia@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 21 May 2025, 15:27 last edited by exusia@lemmy.world
                      #112

                      I'm not gonna sit and tell a man he can't have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.

                      But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Bro is a ceo and cant afford a "personal folder" usb. Here $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon is not uncommon And then to be so distracted he forgot it.

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                      • 3 3migo@lemmy.world
                        21 May 2025, 11:18

                        I've been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.

                        Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.

                        But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.

                        Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.

                        All that to say, I don't have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they're coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.

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                        spaniard@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 21 May 2025, 16:19 last edited by
                        #113

                        What's your take on the telltale game?

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                        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                          mehblah@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 21 May 2025, 18:48 last edited by
                          #114

                          Arrrrrr!

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                          • C cethin@lemmy.zip
                            21 May 2025, 05:58

                            Honestly, in my opinion, there's too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn't competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don't expect much from four, and there's companies I'd actually like to support instead.

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                            leavemealone@sh.itjust.works
                            wrote on 21 May 2025, 19:58 last edited by
                            #115

                            I can't tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn't interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn't taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn't have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don't trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

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                            • W warlordsdocy@lemm.ee
                              20 May 2025, 22:51

                              Yeah I'm really starting to feel like we're gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn't be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

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                              leavemealone@sh.itjust.works
                              wrote on 21 May 2025, 20:03 last edited by
                              #116

                              Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can't get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

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                              • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                                bss03@infosec.pub
                                wrote on 21 May 2025, 20:20 last edited by
                                #117

                                I agree, but when you wouldn't let Aspyr do a Linux port for BL3, I stopped being a "real fan".

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                                • A alfredolin@sopuli.xyz
                                  21 May 2025, 06:26

                                  BL2 had unique blues which were OP.

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                                  solorion@sh.itjust.works
                                  wrote on 21 May 2025, 21:18 last edited by
                                  #118

                                  Ah, that's true! Anything with flavor text- red text in the description- is an exception to the normal rarities.

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                                  • J jigglysackles@lemmy.world
                                    21 May 2025, 12:32

                                    Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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                                    xiii@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 21 May 2025, 21:41 last edited by
                                    #119

                                    While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                                    Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                                    When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                                    https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                                    • N newthrowaway20@lemmy.world
                                      20 May 2025, 21:31

                                      He's too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.

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                                      kbobabob@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 21 May 2025, 22:51 last edited by
                                      #120

                                      Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he'd be in cuffs.

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                                      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                                        joel_feila@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 21 May 2025, 23:59 last edited by
                                        #121

                                        And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

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                                        • X xiii@lemmy.world
                                          21 May 2025, 21:41

                                          While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                                          Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                                          When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                                          https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                                          conditional_soup@lemm.ee
                                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:24 last edited by
                                          #122

                                          If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it's this asshole

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