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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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    I've found a way to play every Borderlands game, 2 is my fave, and not pay more than 12 usd, for the 3rd one which I didn't even get halfway through 'cause it's boring AF - I love Steam sales and don't have FOMO

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      Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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        Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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        You say what project they'll be transitioning to as less and less bug fixes are necessary. Could even be dlc

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          Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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          Game development should not be a gig economy. It is often treated as such so studio execs can pocket more money by dropping staff at release to pad their own wallets. There are plenty of game companies, and millions of companies in other sectors, that reinvest that capital into the company.

          But what about other forms of entertainment? Movies! Books! Music!

          Royalties. This would be another solution.

          Tagging @[email protected] because they might find the thought of royalties vs continued Dev interesting.

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            This has always been my counterpoint for the Nintendo haters when they complain about price. (Although they are a shit company in several other ways) Because when my daughter wants a new switch game if its a top tier Nintendo title its going to be a finished game with zero bugs and zero concern about problematic content for me.

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            Exactly. That's why I buy Nintendo games near release and am patient for PC games.

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              No, no, you don't understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.

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              I'm not gonna sit and tell a man he can't have a kink preference in his own home on his own time.

              But Jesus fuck on the company thumb drive? Bro is a ceo and cant afford a "personal folder" usb. Here $12 for a 128Gb one on Amazon is not uncommon And then to be so distracted he forgot it.

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              • 3migo@lemmy.world3 [email protected]

                I've been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.

                Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.

                But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.

                Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.

                All that to say, I don't have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they're coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.

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                What's your take on the telltale game?

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                  Arrrrrr!

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                    Honestly, in my opinion, there's too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn't competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don't expect much from four, and there's companies I'd actually like to support instead.

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                    I can't tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn't interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn't taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn't have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don't trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

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                      Yeah I'm really starting to feel like we're gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn't be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

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                      Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can't get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

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                        I agree, but when you wouldn't let Aspyr do a Linux port for BL3, I stopped being a "real fan".

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                          BL2 had unique blues which were OP.

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                          Ah, that's true! Anything with flavor text- red text in the description- is an exception to the normal rarities.

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                            Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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                            While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                            Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                            When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                            https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                            • N [email protected]

                              He's too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.

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                              Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he'd be in cuffs.

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                                And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

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                                  While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                                  Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                                  When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                                  https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                                  If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it's this asshole

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                                    I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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                                      In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                                      Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                                      Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                                        Nope, just would play Tiny Tina's Wonderland again honestly, which I got for around $10 when it was heavily on sale a year ago.

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                                          In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                                          Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                                          Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                                          Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

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