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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    20 May 2025, 18:10
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    neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    wrote on 21 May 2025, 09:25 last edited by
    #92

    I'm absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don't want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn't half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn't try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they've already produced being held back for DLCs.

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    • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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      vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
      wrote on 21 May 2025, 09:34 last edited by
      #93

      put it on my wish list

      buy it for $15 in a year

      yawn

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      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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        earworm@lemmy.world
        wrote on 21 May 2025, 09:43 last edited by
        #94

        TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.

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        • M madame_gaymes@programming.dev
          20 May 2025, 19:31

          I'll add Factorio to the list of games that deserve the $80 tag. $40 for base, $40 for Space Age expansion. Or don't get Space Age and go with the mod that spawned Space Age (although not exactly the same).

          I get it's a bit of a niche genre, though. The factory thing the way Factorio does it isn't for everybody.

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          kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          wrote on 21 May 2025, 10:33 last edited by
          #95

          I personally prefer mindustry

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          • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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            fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
            wrote on 21 May 2025, 10:59 last edited by
            #96

            Give us guaranteed emploment of the staff that built it, and you get guaranteed pre orders?

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            • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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              drbreen@sh.itjust.works
              wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:01 last edited by
              #97

              Oh I'll find a way alright.

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              • N neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                21 May 2025, 09:25

                I'm absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don't want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn't half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn't try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they've already produced being held back for DLCs.

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                delphia@lemmy.world
                wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:17 last edited by
                #98

                This has always been my counterpoint for the Nintendo haters when they complain about price. (Although they are a shit company in several other ways) Because when my daughter wants a new switch game if its a top tier Nintendo title its going to be a finished game with zero bugs and zero concern about problematic content for me.

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                • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                  3migo@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:18 last edited by
                  #99

                  I've been a big Borderlands fan for 10+ years. I played through the first one multiple times and loved it. My wife and I bonded over BL1 when we first started dating.

                  Was super excited for BL2, and have played it many times throughout the years.

                  But the pre-sequel was a let down, and BL3 felt soulless and lacked the same spark as BL2.

                  Tiny Tina Wonderlands was great, and felt like a return to what made BL2 so fun.

                  All that to say, I don't have high hopes for BL4, nor will I be paying $80 for it. It just feels like they're coasting off the brand name at this point and trying to exploit longtime BL players like myself.

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                  • O obelix@lemmy.world
                    21 May 2025, 03:29

                    Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.

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                    lettywhiterock@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:21 last edited by
                    #100

                    That's legitimately how I read what he was saying at first.

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                    • V vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
                      21 May 2025, 09:34

                      put it on my wish list

                      buy it for $15 in a year

                      yawn

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                      technomad@slrpnk.net
                      wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:28 last edited by
                      #101

                      I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it's probably a pretty shit game anyway right?

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                      • F fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
                        21 May 2025, 10:59

                        Give us guaranteed emploment of the staff that built it, and you get guaranteed pre orders?

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                        but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:42 last edited by
                        #102

                        Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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                        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                          the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 21 May 2025, 11:46 last edited by
                          #103

                          It's like they don't understand how piracy works.

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                          • T technomad@slrpnk.net
                            21 May 2025, 11:28

                            I feel like if it drops that much in one year, it's probably a pretty shit game anyway right?

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                            vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pub
                            wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:07 last edited by
                            #104

                            If it being Borderlands 4 wasn't enough of a tip considering the stellar writing we had on pre-sequel and 3.

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                            • E earworm@lemmy.world
                              21 May 2025, 09:43

                              TIL real Borderlands fans are pirates.

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                              tomi000@lemmy.world
                              wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:14 last edited by
                              #105

                              They become pirates if necessary.

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                              • L lootboblin@lemmy.world
                                21 May 2025, 09:09

                                I got bored with Borderlands 3 in one hour. Copy pasta gameplay and I’m tired of the art style and humor. I only paid a fiver but I wish I had bought a burger instead.

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                                anunusualrelic@lemmy.world
                                wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:22 last edited by
                                #106

                                I thought Borderlands was lots of fun, but not four games (for now) and a movie (for now) worth of fun. Even two games was pushing it a bit. You can only stretch things out so much.

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                                  alexaralvarado@infosec.pub
                                  wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:28 last edited by
                                  #107

                                  I've found a way to play every Borderlands game, 2 is my fave, and not pay more than 12 usd, for the 3rd one which I didn't even get halfway through 'cause it's boring AF - I love Steam sales and don't have FOMO

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                                  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                                    jigglysackles@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 21 May 2025, 12:32 last edited by
                                    #108

                                    Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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                                    • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                                      21 May 2025, 11:42

                                      Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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                                      theneverfox@pawb.social
                                      wrote on 21 May 2025, 14:13 last edited by
                                      #109

                                      You say what project they'll be transitioning to as less and less bug fixes are necessary. Could even be dlc

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                                      • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                                        21 May 2025, 11:42

                                        Wait, how do you guarantee employment to a team after their work and contract is complete?

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                                        fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
                                        wrote on 21 May 2025, 14:42 last edited by
                                        #110

                                        Game development should not be a gig economy. It is often treated as such so studio execs can pocket more money by dropping staff at release to pad their own wallets. There are plenty of game companies, and millions of companies in other sectors, that reinvest that capital into the company.

                                        But what about other forms of entertainment? Movies! Books! Music!

                                        Royalties. This would be another solution.

                                        Tagging @theneverfox@pawb.social because they might find the thought of royalties vs continued Dev interesting.

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                                        • D delphia@lemmy.world
                                          21 May 2025, 11:17

                                          This has always been my counterpoint for the Nintendo haters when they complain about price. (Although they are a shit company in several other ways) Because when my daughter wants a new switch game if its a top tier Nintendo title its going to be a finished game with zero bugs and zero concern about problematic content for me.

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                                          sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                                          wrote on 21 May 2025, 15:00 last edited by
                                          #111

                                          Exactly. That's why I buy Nintendo games near release and am patient for PC games.

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