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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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  • vlyn@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

    I don't condone this, but we already had $60 games 10 years ago. If you simply add inflation you'd be at $81 today. That doesn't even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.

    Video games really are a cheap hobby comparatively speaking. I still wait for sales of course 🙂

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    Games have also gotten massively cheaper due to distribute due to digital downloads being the most common, and they're making way more sales due to gaming having a much larger audience.

    The main reason these games have ridiculously inflated budgets are because execs are pushing for more management, which in turn push for oversized teams making design-by-committee out of fear of making something people don't like. The gamin industry doesn't get to make excuses anymore. Them being unable to reign in their development budgets aren't our problem. They need to figure out how to offer games at a lower price, because they're going to run out of customers willing to pay otherwise

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      You can still (for the moment) be patient with Nintendo games if you're OK buying second hand

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      Or just pirate and emulate Nintendo games. They're such scumbags that they make piracy morally correct

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        Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.

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          Yeah, the way to make it happen is adding it to my wishlist and waiting for the price to drop to at least $40.

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            I guess me and my several thousand borderlands hours are not a real fan then? The games weren't worth $80 even when they came with goodies. They're not worth $80 without the goodies. I'll just wait for a sale.

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            I'll just leave this skull and bones flag right here FOR NO REAL REASON!!!

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            • vlyn@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

              I don't condone this, but we already had $60 games 10 years ago. If you simply add inflation you'd be at $81 today. That doesn't even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.

              Video games really are a cheap hobby comparatively speaking. I still wait for sales of course 🙂

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              That doesn't even take into account that modern games also have larger budgets compared to back then.

              It also doesn't take into account how much more they make even at the lower price points

              If game companies want more money for their games they can start by cutting the worthless CEOs, not raising prices

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                Too much games to play on the market to justify the urgency to buy it at release for 80 bucks. they now compete with free to play, gamepass, Indy games, piracy, and tons of past games with lower cost.

                The fomo of newly released games is low when most games are released in shitty state and need 1/2 months of patches/fixes and that's not even taking in consideration that the best experience is when all the dlcs are released and make the game finally complete.

                The AAA industry is fucked. In a world where quality games are released each weeks they are often but even the best way to have fun with our limited time, like tepid Ubisoft games...

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                Honestly, in my opinion, there's too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn't competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don't expect much from four, and there's companies I'd actually like to support instead.

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                  Yeah, I'll fucking pirate it LMAO

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                    Can't wait to play it...in 2035 summer sale. Maybe I'll even get bored in under 2 hours and get the instant refund.

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                      If it ain't a purple I can basically guarantee it's shit. Just keep the rarity order in mind, and you can generally assume anything that's less rare than what you have is also worse. One of the load screens in BL1 or BL2 said When Grandma Burps Patrick Obeys- White, Green, Blue, Purple, Orange. Got absolutely burnt into my brain.

                      But hey, if it's stressful fair enough. I think they're fun games, but nothing is for everyone.

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                      BL2 had unique blues which were OP.

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                        Well, new Doom is 90€ I aint buying that garbage. 80+ € or bucks for a AAA always online slop is just a NO.

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                          I didn't want borderlands even when it was cheaper.

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                          • exusia@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                            Randy pitchford?

                            THAT Randy Pitchford?
                            The Randy Pitchford that, because he loves magic tricks, downloaded himself some squirt porn (sfw youtube link to moistcritical) on the same thumb drive as company secrets, and then left it at a Medieval Times?
                            The same Randy that grabbed the Claptrap VA by the junk because he was tired of voicing Claptrap for free and had the audacity to ask to be paid so Pitchford tried to intimidate him? The same Randy Pitchford that somehow "lost" millions dollars of Segas money causing Colonial marines to bomb so that they could fund Borderlands 2 and Duke Nukem Forever He's also not above putting journalists who bad mouth him in his games as petty revenge.

                            Fuck that guy. Fuck anything he says.

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                            No, no, you don't understand, the girl was doing a magic trick! He only consumed that just barely legal content with professional interest in mind.

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                              Can't wait to play it...in 2035 summer sale. Maybe I'll even get bored in under 2 hours and get the instant refund.

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                              Randy actually needs to see this. It’s reality.

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                                Guess I'm not a real fan 🤷‍♂️

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                                  Aw, he’s telling people to pirate it. What a thoughtful guy.

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                                  You wouldn't download a shit to give.

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                                    Weeps in Canadian

                                    I’ve been paying $80 the whole time! Now I have to pay even more!

                                    Either way I won’t be buying Borderlands 4 for like $100 I can tell you that much.

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                                      The video game landscape is already filled to the brims with more games than I need to play for the rest of my life and you want me to hurry up to pay for a game as it comes out, to ditch out the full price when my computer would suffer for the lack of latest gen hardware when I could easily find a large amount of fantastic games for less than 10 bucks and comfortably max out their settings?

                                      Like, the witcher 3 with all its DLC, a fantastic game which is 10 years old but got a free graphics upgrade and with all its DLC, worth hundreds of hours of gameplay and a memorable experience is less than 10 bucks, as we speak, both on steam and gog.

                                      Most people already have more games than they have time to play. Patient gamer has never been more rewarding. We fall too often for the fear of missing out the experience and hype of a new launch...

                                      I finished GTA 4 and 5 like a year ago, on my steam deck. I couldn't care less if these games came out like 10 years ago. It gives me the flexibility to play them how I want to.

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                                      100% agree. I no joke own about 900 games I haven't played between steam (most bought when I was young and naive, probably bought like 10 games in the last 10 years now I know better), epic free games, and playstation plus monthly "free" games (not even counting the catalogue you now get access to), yes they're technically not entirely free but I'd be paying for plus regardless so they kinda are.

                                      Now as a lot of these games weren't chosen by me, by no means do I want to play them all, and some are duplicates across platforms. But if even 10% interest me, that's still 90 games. I probably play games at a rate slower than 1 per month. That's years of games to me. And more will be stacking up in that time. I haven't bought a game in like 3 years and it's entirely possible I'll never buy a game again at this rate.

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                                        I got bored with Borderlands 3 in one hour. Copy pasta gameplay and I’m tired of the art style and humor. I only paid a fiver but I wish I had bought a burger instead.

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                                          I'm absolutely ready to pay 80$ for a game. But then I don't want to see scummy shit like lootboxes or advanced access in it. If I pay 80$ I expect to see a game release that isn't half-baked and has to get fixed with hotfixes and patches over the next two months but that just works out of the box and that doesn't try to get me to spend even more money on it. That also includes no content that they've already produced being held back for DLCs.

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