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  • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    ::: spoiler Transcription
    The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

    The Party:

    [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
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    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

      ::: spoiler Transcription
      The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

      The Party:

      [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
      :::

      ummthatguy@lemmy.worldU This user is from outside of this forum
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      • ummthatguy@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

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        Why not legendary creature? It surely is legendary as a meme

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        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

          ::: spoiler Transcription
          The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

          The Party:

          [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
          :::

          sundray@lemmus.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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          "Yes! A critical hit!"

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          • sundray@lemmus.orgS [email protected]

            "Yes! A critical hit!"

            dmmacniel@feddit.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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            okay, the Kraken takes 1 damage.

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            • sundray@lemmus.orgS [email protected]

              "Yes! A critical hit!"

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              “While it is usually immune to nonmagical damage from +0 bolts, because you rolled a 20, the kraken will recognize you next time you’re nearby. It is currently too busy gleefully dismembering dozens of legendary adventurers to respond to your provocation. The captain, noticing that the titan’s gaze is fixed directly upon you, has put it to a vote whether to toss you off the ship. 0 damage, by the way.”

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              • ummthatguy@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

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                Many whelps! Handle it!

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                • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                  ::: spoiler Transcription
                  The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

                  The Party:

                  [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
                  :::

                  kolanaki@pawb.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  I had a thing set up with a Illithid giving the party a quest, hitting them with a psionic holding ability to coerce them and one of my players threw a fit about being held when he had a feat that specifically said it only prevented him from being held by magic spells, and not spell-like abilities or psionics or any other "magic but not really" mechanic.

                  So I let him move. He attacked the Illithid. So he also died.

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                  • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                    ::: spoiler Transcription
                    The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

                    The Party:

                    [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
                    :::

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                    I had a friend who would go straight to the final boss in Chrono Trigger at the start of the game. Somehow he knew how to stalemate the fight so that he could keep the party alive for hours even though everyone was level 1 and impossibly outclassed.

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                      Why not legendary creature? It surely is legendary as a meme

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                      it's weird they didn't use either the WoW trading card

                      or the Hearthstone card

                      which are both part of real games.

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                        it's weird they didn't use either the WoW trading card

                        or the Hearthstone card

                        which are both part of real games.

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                        Because the kraken art in op post is from a mtg card. I forgot the name but I have it somewhere in my binders

                        Edit I'm not that sure anymore, I might be hallucinating I cannot find it anymore

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                        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                          ::: spoiler Transcription
                          The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

                          The Party:

                          [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
                          :::

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                          Some stuff to remember, if you don't want a TPK

                          Never expect that the party will surrender.

                          If you tell the party it's dangerous don't go there , you can bet they'll be there by the end of the evening

                          Ignore the critical fail rules when a PC use explosive

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                            Some stuff to remember, if you don't want a TPK

                            Never expect that the party will surrender.

                            If you tell the party it's dangerous don't go there , you can bet they'll be there by the end of the evening

                            Ignore the critical fail rules when a PC use explosive

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                            Fourth thing to remember:

                            If your party suffers an avoidable TPK once, they won't do it again

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                              “While it is usually immune to nonmagical damage from +0 bolts, because you rolled a 20, the kraken will recognize you next time you’re nearby. It is currently too busy gleefully dismembering dozens of legendary adventurers to respond to your provocation. The captain, noticing that the titan’s gaze is fixed directly upon you, has put it to a vote whether to toss you off the ship. 0 damage, by the way.”

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                              "Shoot him again Steve!"

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                                Because the kraken art in op post is from a mtg card. I forgot the name but I have it somewhere in my binders

                                Edit I'm not that sure anymore, I might be hallucinating I cannot find it anymore

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                                It's by Craig J Spearing on Bloomburrow Commander's Octopus token: https://scryfall.com/card/tblc/14/octopus

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                                  It's by Craig J Spearing on Bloomburrow Commander's Octopus token: https://scryfall.com/card/tblc/14/octopus

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                                  OH it was a token, that's why. Many thanks.

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                                  • apotheotic@beehaw.orgA [email protected]

                                    Fourth thing to remember:

                                    If your party suffers an avoidable TPK once, they won't do it again

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                                    If your party suffers an avoidable TPK once, they won’t do it again

                                    Maybe not the exact same TPK, but some will definitely find another very avoidable TPK and try to solve it via headbutts

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                                    • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                      ::: spoiler Transcription
                                      The GM: *Makes a clearly overpowered monster, intending for the party to flee.*

                                      The Party:

                                      [Picture with the text "Hit him with your crossbow Steve!" overlaid, of a large octopus/squid-like creature with tentacles raised out of the ocean. It towers over a pair of humanoid figures, one holding a staff in one hand and pointing at the squid with the other, the other person aiming a crossbow at it.]
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                                      It's kinda a game flaw. Combat is usually encouraged by most modules, and fleeing is typically a bad option mechanically. So what else do players do?

                                      The only solution is to make running the painfully obvious choice

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                                        It's kinda a game flaw. Combat is usually encouraged by most modules, and fleeing is typically a bad option mechanically. So what else do players do?

                                        The only solution is to make running the painfully obvious choice

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                                        The other solution is to have an alternative 'out'. Like if the overpowered enemy doesn't actually want to kill the players, but knock them out and capture them. Or if there's an established (non–deus ex) rescuer who can come in and save them...preferably in a way that forces them to escape without removing the threat from being there in the future.

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                                        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                                          The other solution is to have an alternative 'out'. Like if the overpowered enemy doesn't actually want to kill the players, but knock them out and capture them. Or if there's an established (non–deus ex) rescuer who can come in and save them...preferably in a way that forces them to escape without removing the threat from being there in the future.

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                                          Enemy clerics and paladins can be so tremendously badass. "I will bring you back to life just to kill you again for having the audacity to invade my temple, you Godless worm."

                                          Then they keep gloating until the wizard casts Dimension Door or Boblin the Goblin shows up with his friends and throws a molotov.

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