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The end of Stop Killing Games [Accursed Farms]

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  • E [email protected]

    This is a PR issue. For some bizarre reason they decided that game preservation should be independent of the right to repair movement a movement that had fairly significant momentum by the time they started talking about games preservation. So for some insane reason they separated the two concepts in people's minds and that resulted in nobody caring.

    Then they decided to whine about the fact that it was unsuccessful despite the fact that they'd essentially done everything they could to kneecap the movement.

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    #76

    What does game preservation have to do with right to repair? I support both, but if people don't care about preserving games, latching it onto the right to repair movement is just going to drag it down for no reason.

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    • A [email protected]

      This isn't "just a petition". It's a formal path to get a response from the EU commission. If it reaches the thresholds, the EU commission is forced by law to consider it. It isn't some random petition that can be filed away and never heard of again.

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      #77

      what's it like having a (semi)functional government?

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      • G [email protected]

        What does game preservation have to do with right to repair? I support both, but if people don't care about preserving games, latching it onto the right to repair movement is just going to drag it down for no reason.

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        #78

        Nothing, one was simply trendy and OP doesn't know how movements work so they just lumped it together

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        • A [email protected]

          Youtube shorts.

          Imagine you're a gamer, one who is interested in game Design. Your view history has games, gaming, game design, but it's also full of algotrash talking heads, scam baiters, shit slingers. You open the YouTube app on your phone, and it immediately opens to shorts, you don't remember settings that as the default but it's fine, you recognize the creator and the 45 second clip was neat. Swipe up. Next video, it Nile Blue dropping a beaker of chloroauric acid. Next video, its Chris Boden yelling about some kind of electrical infrastructure you don't understand (and that's pretty cool). Next video, Thor, speaking softly, explaining an aspect of game design that you never thought of. This one catches your attention, its in your wheelhouse, its something you're genuinely interested in. You click the profile, swipe through a few more shorts. Your algorithm is permanently damaged. Your a pirate software fan now, whether you like it or not.

          Or you can use freetube and never see algotrash talking heads in your feed and never enter into this cycle.

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          wrote last edited by [email protected]
          #79

          I really fucking hate that, too. The algorithm is so fucking vile and evil.

          I cant even watch the content i want to watch on youtube, like fishing and guns (with the exception of forgotten weapons and InRange, which the algorithm doesnt seem to view as gateways to right wing indoctrination (cause they arent) and seem to be safe.. at least for now.), because if I so much as hover my mouse over one of the thumbnails of that kind of content, I immediately get blasted with 3 months of right wing extremist pseudo-intellectual diarrhea that I cant escape without completely resetting my browser.

          but if I spend an evening watching retrogaming stuff? Oh fuck, Youtube just completely ignores that and pretends it never saw me show interest in that.

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            Downvoting requires you:
            A. Click into the video
            B. Select the downvote button, thereby engaging with the video

            The algorithm is not designed to feed you content you like, only content that will generate clicks and interaction. The only way to eliminate that content from your feed is to forcibly remove it, as they have designed the feed such that it is impossible not to interact with it.

            Again, I suggest trying freetube as a frontend, as it allows you to retitle and rethumbnail clickbait videos, and remove shorts from your feeds, thereby eliminating the skinner box that is youtube from your life.

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            youtube is a lot like telephone scammers.

            The only winning move is to not to play, because anything you do just confirms existence and worsens experience.

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            • A [email protected]

              I think the initiative just ran out of steam. I remember seeeing it everywhere for the first month or so, and then nothing, and it plateaued around where it is now. Maybe the vast majority of EU gamers just can't be arsed to read and sign a petition like this. I mean most can't even vote with their wallet when a shit game releases. And of course it's fun to blame thor/pirateguy for this ( and they probably did have their share of fault ) but in the end it looks like 500k is the amount of gamers that actually give a fuck about the state of things.

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              #81

              Completely agree, I also noticed that every single notable person I see talking about this is from the US or Canada. I also get the impression that the EU simply doesn't care enough.

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              • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                thor is a tech youtuber. it's just his actual name.

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                Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Youtube shorts.

                  Imagine you're a gamer, one who is interested in game Design. Your view history has games, gaming, game design, but it's also full of algotrash talking heads, scam baiters, shit slingers. You open the YouTube app on your phone, and it immediately opens to shorts, you don't remember settings that as the default but it's fine, you recognize the creator and the 45 second clip was neat. Swipe up. Next video, it Nile Blue dropping a beaker of chloroauric acid. Next video, its Chris Boden yelling about some kind of electrical infrastructure you don't understand (and that's pretty cool). Next video, Thor, speaking softly, explaining an aspect of game design that you never thought of. This one catches your attention, its in your wheelhouse, its something you're genuinely interested in. You click the profile, swipe through a few more shorts. Your algorithm is permanently damaged. Your a pirate software fan now, whether you like it or not.

                  Or you can use freetube and never see algotrash talking heads in your feed and never enter into this cycle.

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                  #83

                  Hey don't talk shit about Chris he's a fun dude who shares his passion and cool knowledge and that's pretty cool.

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                    Hey don't talk shit about Chris he's a fun dude who shares his passion and cool knowledge and that's pretty cool.

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                    #84

                    Never talked shit about about Chris, love the guy, but its absolutely true that he partakes in the same clickbaity tendencies that lead us to this problem in the first place.

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                    • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                      PirateSoftware is an enormous cunt.

                      And he makes no effort to hide it.

                      I genuinely don't understand why he has such a rabid fanbase.

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                      I've seen him described elsewhere as "a poor man's idea of a rich man" and I think it's accurate.

                      With that said, I don't think it's his fault the petition failed, people just don't care usually.

                      edit: To give more context, Pirategames literally does not know what the Stop Killing Games movement is about, he thinks it's only about single-player games being always-online (yes that's a component of it but not the whole thing) and converting multiplayer games to be offline-playable single-player games but it does NOT mention that anywhere because it is NOT about that. However, I guarantee you that Pirategames will not admit that he was mistaken about his understanding of the Stop Killing Games movement, he will instead double and triple down and insist that he had the correct understanding of it. lol

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                      • D [email protected]

                        I feel like this needs to be spread as far and wide as possible, and for PirateSoftware to be mass reported for misinformation about an ongoing political initiative.

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                        Toxic behavior. Silence people for their opinions

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                          Downvoting requires you:
                          A. Click into the video
                          B. Select the downvote button, thereby engaging with the video

                          The algorithm is not designed to feed you content you like, only content that will generate clicks and interaction. The only way to eliminate that content from your feed is to forcibly remove it, as they have designed the feed such that it is impossible not to interact with it.

                          Again, I suggest trying freetube as a frontend, as it allows you to retitle and rethumbnail clickbait videos, and remove shorts from your feeds, thereby eliminating the skinner box that is youtube from your life.

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                          With videos, yes, but not with shorts. It’s like TikTok where you swipe, but you have like and dislike buttons as well. I dislike all AI slob, Nile, nearly all of that shitty promoted stuff, but still get these.

                          Same with Spotify, my weekly mix rarely contains more than 1 song I actually listen to (metal, punk, hardstyle, hardcore) yet it gives me hardbass and this kind of genre where all you hear is distorted over-amplified bass every third of a second and that’s it… I dislike like a tinderella

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                          • default_defect@midwest.socialD [email protected]

                            Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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                            middle name, sorry

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                            • A [email protected]

                              I think the initiative just ran out of steam. I remember seeeing it everywhere for the first month or so, and then nothing, and it plateaued around where it is now. Maybe the vast majority of EU gamers just can't be arsed to read and sign a petition like this. I mean most can't even vote with their wallet when a shit game releases. And of course it's fun to blame thor/pirateguy for this ( and they probably did have their share of fault ) but in the end it looks like 500k is the amount of gamers that actually give a fuck about the state of things.

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                              Yup, I don’t watch his content, but looking at his actual viewership numbers, he doesn’t even remotely have the impact to make or break a petition by himself.

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                              • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Typical Blizzard dev BS

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                                He wasn't a game dev apparently. He worked in security, and there are rumors saying he actually was a WoW moderator.

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                                • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                  youtube is a lot like telephone scammers.

                                  The only winning move is to not to play, because anything you do just confirms existence and worsens experience.

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                                  They hide it, but they do have RSS Feeds for each channel. I follow all the channels that interest me via my feed reader and only interact with the site to watch the videos. I never click any links to anywhere and am not logged in.

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                                    Actually Asmongold was one of the biggest names in support of SKG.

                                    Broken clocks are right twice a day.

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                                    He's a capital G gamer through and through. He cares more about games than literally anything else.

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                                    • default_defect@midwest.socialD [email protected]

                                      Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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                                      Come on now dudes a dick but it's perfectly normal to go by your middle name.

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                                      • P [email protected]

                                        i don't watch him but i hope this isn't about what he did in wow because the sheer fact that anyone even gives a shit seems wild to me. but hey i hate MMOs so maybe that's why.

                                        is there other reasons people don't/shouldn't like him or is it just vibes

                                        edit: nvm got an answer on another content

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                                        It's not because he did anything wrong in wow that people are upset/memeing about, it's because he's unable to say "I'm sorry, I could have done better" without including any buts or "the others also messed up". It has just exposed him as an incredibly self obsessed person.

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                                          It's not because he did anything wrong in wow that people are upset/memeing about, it's because he's unable to say "I'm sorry, I could have done better" without including any buts or "the others also messed up". It has just exposed him as an incredibly self obsessed person.

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                                          on that part sorry i still don't care. it's a child's game; there's nothing to apologize for. but his comments on stop killing games and accused farms are bad.

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