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  • G gamer@lemm.ee
    15 days ago

    What does game preservation have to do with right to repair? I support both, but if people don't care about preserving games, latching it onto the right to repair movement is just going to drag it down for no reason.

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    maalus@lemmy.world
    wrote 15 days ago last edited by
    #78

    Nothing, one was simply trendy and OP doesn't know how movements work so they just lumped it together

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    • A arsonbutcute@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      15 days ago

      Youtube shorts.

      Imagine you're a gamer, one who is interested in game Design. Your view history has games, gaming, game design, but it's also full of algotrash talking heads, scam baiters, shit slingers. You open the YouTube app on your phone, and it immediately opens to shorts, you don't remember settings that as the default but it's fine, you recognize the creator and the 45 second clip was neat. Swipe up. Next video, it Nile Blue dropping a beaker of chloroauric acid. Next video, its Chris Boden yelling about some kind of electrical infrastructure you don't understand (and that's pretty cool). Next video, Thor, speaking softly, explaining an aspect of game design that you never thought of. This one catches your attention, its in your wheelhouse, its something you're genuinely interested in. You click the profile, swipe through a few more shorts. Your algorithm is permanently damaged. Your a pirate software fan now, whether you like it or not.

      Or you can use freetube and never see algotrash talking heads in your feed and never enter into this cycle.

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      a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
      wrote 15 days ago last edited by a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
      #79

      I really fucking hate that, too. The algorithm is so fucking vile and evil.

      I cant even watch the content i want to watch on youtube, like fishing and guns (with the exception of forgotten weapons and InRange, which the algorithm doesnt seem to view as gateways to right wing indoctrination (cause they arent) and seem to be safe.. at least for now.), because if I so much as hover my mouse over one of the thumbnails of that kind of content, I immediately get blasted with 3 months of right wing extremist pseudo-intellectual diarrhea that I cant escape without completely resetting my browser.

      but if I spend an evening watching retrogaming stuff? Oh fuck, Youtube just completely ignores that and pretends it never saw me show interest in that.

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      • A arsonbutcute@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        15 days ago

        Downvoting requires you:
        A. Click into the video
        B. Select the downvote button, thereby engaging with the video

        The algorithm is not designed to feed you content you like, only content that will generate clicks and interaction. The only way to eliminate that content from your feed is to forcibly remove it, as they have designed the feed such that it is impossible not to interact with it.

        Again, I suggest trying freetube as a frontend, as it allows you to retitle and rethumbnail clickbait videos, and remove shorts from your feeds, thereby eliminating the skinner box that is youtube from your life.

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        a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
        wrote 15 days ago last edited by
        #80

        youtube is a lot like telephone scammers.

        The only winning move is to not to play, because anything you do just confirms existence and worsens experience.

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        • A absquatulate@lemmy.world
          15 days ago

          I think the initiative just ran out of steam. I remember seeeing it everywhere for the first month or so, and then nothing, and it plateaued around where it is now. Maybe the vast majority of EU gamers just can't be arsed to read and sign a petition like this. I mean most can't even vote with their wallet when a shit game releases. And of course it's fun to blame thor/pirateguy for this ( and they probably did have their share of fault ) but in the end it looks like 500k is the amount of gamers that actually give a fuck about the state of things.

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          default_defect@midwest.social
          wrote 15 days ago last edited by
          #81

          Completely agree, I also noticed that every single notable person I see talking about this is from the US or Canada. I also get the impression that the EU simply doesn't care enough.

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          • L lime@feddit.nu
            16 days ago

            thor is a tech youtuber. it's just his actual name.

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            default_defect@midwest.social
            wrote 15 days ago last edited by
            #82

            Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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            • A arsonbutcute@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              15 days ago

              Youtube shorts.

              Imagine you're a gamer, one who is interested in game Design. Your view history has games, gaming, game design, but it's also full of algotrash talking heads, scam baiters, shit slingers. You open the YouTube app on your phone, and it immediately opens to shorts, you don't remember settings that as the default but it's fine, you recognize the creator and the 45 second clip was neat. Swipe up. Next video, it Nile Blue dropping a beaker of chloroauric acid. Next video, its Chris Boden yelling about some kind of electrical infrastructure you don't understand (and that's pretty cool). Next video, Thor, speaking softly, explaining an aspect of game design that you never thought of. This one catches your attention, its in your wheelhouse, its something you're genuinely interested in. You click the profile, swipe through a few more shorts. Your algorithm is permanently damaged. Your a pirate software fan now, whether you like it or not.

              Or you can use freetube and never see algotrash talking heads in your feed and never enter into this cycle.

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              seralth@lemmy.world
              wrote 15 days ago last edited by
              #83

              Hey don't talk shit about Chris he's a fun dude who shares his passion and cool knowledge and that's pretty cool.

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              • S seralth@lemmy.world
                15 days ago

                Hey don't talk shit about Chris he's a fun dude who shares his passion and cool knowledge and that's pretty cool.

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                arsonbutcute@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                wrote 15 days ago last edited by
                #84

                Never talked shit about about Chris, love the guy, but its absolutely true that he partakes in the same clickbaity tendencies that lead us to this problem in the first place.

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                • A a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
                  15 days ago

                  PirateSoftware is an enormous cunt.

                  And he makes no effort to hide it.

                  I genuinely don't understand why he has such a rabid fanbase.

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                  ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
                  wrote 15 days ago last edited by ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
                  #85

                  I've seen him described elsewhere as "a poor man's idea of a rich man" and I think it's accurate.

                  With that said, I don't think it's his fault the petition failed, people just don't care usually.

                  edit: To give more context, Pirategames literally does not know what the Stop Killing Games movement is about, he thinks it's only about single-player games being always-online (yes that's a component of it but not the whole thing) and converting multiplayer games to be offline-playable single-player games but it does NOT mention that anywhere because it is NOT about that. However, I guarantee you that Pirategames will not admit that he was mistaken about his understanding of the Stop Killing Games movement, he will instead double and triple down and insist that he had the correct understanding of it. lol

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                  • D deusumbra@lemmy.world
                    16 days ago

                    I feel like this needs to be spread as far and wide as possible, and for PirateSoftware to be mass reported for misinformation about an ongoing political initiative.

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                    fireiced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
                    wrote 15 days ago last edited by
                    #86

                    Toxic behavior. Silence people for their opinions

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                    • A arsonbutcute@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                      15 days ago

                      Downvoting requires you:
                      A. Click into the video
                      B. Select the downvote button, thereby engaging with the video

                      The algorithm is not designed to feed you content you like, only content that will generate clicks and interaction. The only way to eliminate that content from your feed is to forcibly remove it, as they have designed the feed such that it is impossible not to interact with it.

                      Again, I suggest trying freetube as a frontend, as it allows you to retitle and rethumbnail clickbait videos, and remove shorts from your feeds, thereby eliminating the skinner box that is youtube from your life.

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                      nikls94@lemmy.world
                      wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                      #87

                      With videos, yes, but not with shorts. It’s like TikTok where you swipe, but you have like and dislike buttons as well. I dislike all AI slob, Nile, nearly all of that shitty promoted stuff, but still get these.

                      Same with Spotify, my weekly mix rarely contains more than 1 song I actually listen to (metal, punk, hardstyle, hardcore) yet it gives me hardbass and this kind of genre where all you hear is distorted over-amplified bass every third of a second and that’s it… I dislike like a tinderella

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                      • D default_defect@midwest.social
                        15 days ago

                        Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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                        lime@feddit.nu
                        wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                        #88

                        middle name, sorry

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                        • A absquatulate@lemmy.world
                          15 days ago

                          I think the initiative just ran out of steam. I remember seeeing it everywhere for the first month or so, and then nothing, and it plateaued around where it is now. Maybe the vast majority of EU gamers just can't be arsed to read and sign a petition like this. I mean most can't even vote with their wallet when a shit game releases. And of course it's fun to blame thor/pirateguy for this ( and they probably did have their share of fault ) but in the end it looks like 500k is the amount of gamers that actually give a fuck about the state of things.

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                          mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world
                          wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                          #89

                          Yup, I don’t watch his content, but looking at his actual viewership numbers, he doesn’t even remotely have the impact to make or break a petition by himself.

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                          • M mitm0@lemmy.world
                            15 days ago

                            Typical Blizzard dev BS

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                            somethingburger@jlai.lu
                            wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                            #90

                            He wasn't a game dev apparently. He worked in security, and there are rumors saying he actually was a WoW moderator.

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                            • A a_random_idiot@lemmy.world
                              15 days ago

                              youtube is a lot like telephone scammers.

                              The only winning move is to not to play, because anything you do just confirms existence and worsens experience.

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                              philipp_@discuss.tchncs.de
                              wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                              #91

                              They hide it, but they do have RSS Feeds for each channel. I follow all the channels that interest me via my feed reader and only interact with the site to watch the videos. I never click any links to anywhere and am not logged in.

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                              • F fartmaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                15 days ago

                                Actually Asmongold was one of the biggest names in support of SKG.

                                Broken clocks are right twice a day.

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                                scintilla@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                                #92

                                He's a capital G gamer through and through. He cares more about games than literally anything else.

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                                • D default_defect@midwest.social
                                  15 days ago

                                  Its not his actual name. Its Jason.

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                                  scintilla@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                  wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                                  #93

                                  Come on now dudes a dick but it's perfectly normal to go by your middle name.

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                                  • P pyre@lemmy.world
                                    15 days ago

                                    i don't watch him but i hope this isn't about what he did in wow because the sheer fact that anyone even gives a shit seems wild to me. but hey i hate MMOs so maybe that's why.

                                    is there other reasons people don't/shouldn't like him or is it just vibes

                                    edit: nvm got an answer on another content

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                                    hereiam@lemmy.world
                                    wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                                    #94

                                    It's not because he did anything wrong in wow that people are upset/memeing about, it's because he's unable to say "I'm sorry, I could have done better" without including any buts or "the others also messed up". It has just exposed him as an incredibly self obsessed person.

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                                    • H hereiam@lemmy.world
                                      14 days ago

                                      It's not because he did anything wrong in wow that people are upset/memeing about, it's because he's unable to say "I'm sorry, I could have done better" without including any buts or "the others also messed up". It has just exposed him as an incredibly self obsessed person.

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                                      pyre@lemmy.world
                                      wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                                      #95

                                      on that part sorry i still don't care. it's a child's game; there's nothing to apologize for. but his comments on stop killing games and accused farms are bad.

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                                      • F fireiced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
                                        15 days ago

                                        Toxic behavior. Silence people for their opinions

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                                        deusumbra@lemmy.world
                                        wrote 14 days ago last edited by
                                        #96

                                        It's not about having a dumb opinion, it's about actually spreading false information. He lies consistently about what the movement is about and what the goals are.

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                                        • D deusumbra@lemmy.world
                                          14 days ago

                                          It's not about having a dumb opinion, it's about actually spreading false information. He lies consistently about what the movement is about and what the goals are.

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                                          fireiced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
                                          wrote 14 days ago last edited by fireiced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
                                          #97

                                          The project doesn't clearly explain what its intentions are. The first time I saw the stop killing games initiative, I thought the exact same as him. Obviously it goes much further and it doesn't propose any law so europe and each country would be free to set their own limits, but from an external eye it flawed when these questions are not directly and transparently answered on the website

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