"I live here now"
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there is no land back. people want a state with equal rights; that's it. i love how this is always a "concern": hey i know we genocided you, but what if you retaliate? we can't have that so the genocide most continue.
in reality we've seen what happens: what happened to the white south africans in south africa? what happened to the slave owners in the united states after emancipation? what happened to them after natives got some of their land and autonomy back?
nothing. prosperity, even. but at this point i don't give a shit if it's not nothing. israelis proved time and again—yes the population too, not just the government—that they're genocidal maniacs.
this is exactly the same as being concerned with what would happen to the nazis if germany gave rights back to the jews. imagine asking "what if the jews strike back? no the camps must stay".
just as it was right back then to emancipate the jewish people and other minorities no matter what would happen afterwards, so it is for palestinians now. luckily for the rapists and murderers of the world, the oppressed never turn out to be so genocidal once freed.
I am just asking. That does not mean I am defending Isreal for fucks sake.
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I always support the culture that doesn’t put women into black togas and tell them what can they do at the threat of being stoned or their hand cut off.
That’s why I love israeli. It is hard not to. They are extremely pretty. Men and women alike have some unreal genes. You go on the street and half of it is beautiful women just going about their days like they weren’t looking like angels.
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I always support the culture that doesn’t put women into black togas and tell them what can they do at the threat of being stoned or their hand cut off.
That’s why I love israeli. It is hard not to. They are extremely pretty. Men and women alike have some unreal genes. You go on the street and half of it is beautiful women just going about their days like they weren’t looking like angels.
The fuck is this shit?
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The fuck is this shit?
The inner monologue of every centrist.
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@dessalines @ChairmanMeow Why won't those ungrateful Ukrainians just surrender to Putin's kindly embrace?
Eastern Ukrainians weren't grateful to be bombed by NATO-funded banderites for several years in the donbass, nor were most Ukrainians glad to have their government overthrown in a US-backed coup in 2014.
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Yep, Russia stole third of Ukraine and tries to pretend it's a part of their country not because they're doing colonialism, but because... um... nothing I guess, it's not happening actually. All the Ukranians just deciding to die of natural causes there.
you genuinely don't know what colonialism is
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How on Earth is it not settler colonialism when Russia engages in a prolonged campaign of trying to russify the Ukranian language, heavily propogandizing those in border regions to either get them to apply for, or either grant them Russian passports/citizenship, then they claim the rightful borders have moved, then invade and capture those border areas (and others), and then emgage in ethnic cleansing within those border areas?
Please, explain to me how that isn't settler colonialism, just with a few initial, semi-novel/semi-uncommon extra steps?
you don't know what is settler colonialism and you don't know what is reality, gtfo don't compare Palestine to Ukraine
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you don't know what is settler colonialism and you don't know what is reality, gtfo don't compare Palestine to Ukraine
Would you care to explain anything, or do you just want to have a hissy fit?
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Would you care to explain anything, or do you just want to have a hissy fit?
You don't read books or theory about colonialism, you don't look at the news or the current event, you give vibe based "analysis" of the situation, and you want me to explain the entirety of colonialism from beginning to end just because your lazy ass won't read Frantz Fanon.
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I am just asking. That does not mean I am defending Isreal for fucks sake.
ok; it's just been a common rhetoric to justify the continuation of the apartheid if not the genocide outright.
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You don't read books or theory about colonialism, you don't look at the news or the current event, you give vibe based "analysis" of the situation, and you want me to explain the entirety of colonialism from beginning to end just because your lazy ass won't read Frantz Fanon.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ok so I actually have a degree in Poli Sci and another degree in Econ, I have read quite a lot of theory, often got into arguments with my NeoLiberal professors over things like the IMF, WorldBank, how to evaluate systemic risk in financial markets, the idea of bailing out Wall Street during the GFC instead of jailing them all as corrupt, as Iceland did, once got a bad mark on a paper about conflict goods because my PoliSci prof simply refused to acknowledge that US Army troops were guarding opium farms in Afghanistan, independently sought out and studied modern Marxist econonmists outside of the scope of course work, etc etc.
I want you to explain, in a couple sentences, or paragraphs if you need to... how the situation I described above either is not settler colonialism, or is a wildly innacurate mischaracterization of the situation, or some mix of both.
Not just yell 'read theory!' at me and give me an author name.
I do not need the entire concept of settler colonialism explained to me. I am familiar with it.
If you've read and understood Fanon, you should be able to... you know, make that argument.
Succinctly.
In your own words.
Otherwise you're just a pretentious hipster, arrogantly name dropping authors and scoffing.
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Well wasn't the excuse that the Jews had that land originally then over the history of time there were land disputes. I forget the whole history of it but that's a bit I remember.
Sure, you could say in this comic it's the guy on the left's childhood home that they moved out of 20 years ago.
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ok; it's just been a common rhetoric to justify the continuation of the apartheid if not the genocide outright.
I know. I 'support' (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won't pretend they are the good guys.
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I always support the culture that doesn’t put women into black togas and tell them what can they do at the threat of being stoned or their hand cut off.
That’s why I love israeli. It is hard not to. They are extremely pretty. Men and women alike have some unreal genes. You go on the street and half of it is beautiful women just going about their days like they weren’t looking like angels.
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Based audience no cap
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Hope i didnt miss the panel where the small guys grandpa murdered a native and setup the chair and table
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That was like 2500 years ago. There are Palestinians today who still carry the keys of the houses they were forced out of.
Should I have the right to go to Africa and kick people out of their houses, on the basis that all humans are believed to have originally come from Africa? There's a statute of limitations at some point, surely.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Is there a statue of limitation on generations of systematic oppression all stemming from brutal imperialism? No, seems kinda dumb for an imperialist to put that in their own law, considering.
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Kinda like the Jewish invaders in middle east
Don't you mean zionist
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Is there a statue of limitation on generations of systematic oppression all stemming from brutal imperialism? No, seems kinda dumb for an imperialist to put that in their own law, considering.
You're right, everybody needs to continue fighting over millenia long grudges. That's what leftism is all about.
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You're right, everybody needs to continue fighting over millenia long grudges. That's what leftism is all about.
I suppose youre the ultimate authority on what is just and unjust?
