"I live here now"
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You don't read books or theory about colonialism, you don't look at the news or the current event, you give vibe based "analysis" of the situation, and you want me to explain the entirety of colonialism from beginning to end just because your lazy ass won't read Frantz Fanon.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ok so I actually have a degree in Poli Sci and another degree in Econ, I have read quite a lot of theory, often got into arguments with my NeoLiberal professors over things like the IMF, WorldBank, how to evaluate systemic risk in financial markets, the idea of bailing out Wall Street during the GFC instead of jailing them all as corrupt, as Iceland did, once got a bad mark on a paper about conflict goods because my PoliSci prof simply refused to acknowledge that US Army troops were guarding opium farms in Afghanistan, independently sought out and studied modern Marxist econonmists outside of the scope of course work, etc etc.
I want you to explain, in a couple sentences, or paragraphs if you need to... how the situation I described above either is not settler colonialism, or is a wildly innacurate mischaracterization of the situation, or some mix of both.
Not just yell 'read theory!' at me and give me an author name.
I do not need the entire concept of settler colonialism explained to me. I am familiar with it.
If you've read and understood Fanon, you should be able to... you know, make that argument.
Succinctly.
In your own words.
Otherwise you're just a pretentious hipster, arrogantly name dropping authors and scoffing.
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Well wasn't the excuse that the Jews had that land originally then over the history of time there were land disputes. I forget the whole history of it but that's a bit I remember.
Sure, you could say in this comic it's the guy on the left's childhood home that they moved out of 20 years ago.
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ok; it's just been a common rhetoric to justify the continuation of the apartheid if not the genocide outright.
I know. I 'support' (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won't pretend they are the good guys.
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I always support the culture that doesn’t put women into black togas and tell them what can they do at the threat of being stoned or their hand cut off.
That’s why I love israeli. It is hard not to. They are extremely pretty. Men and women alike have some unreal genes. You go on the street and half of it is beautiful women just going about their days like they weren’t looking like angels.
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Based audience no cap
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Hope i didnt miss the panel where the small guys grandpa murdered a native and setup the chair and table
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That was like 2500 years ago. There are Palestinians today who still carry the keys of the houses they were forced out of.
Should I have the right to go to Africa and kick people out of their houses, on the basis that all humans are believed to have originally come from Africa? There's a statute of limitations at some point, surely.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Is there a statue of limitation on generations of systematic oppression all stemming from brutal imperialism? No, seems kinda dumb for an imperialist to put that in their own law, considering.
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Kinda like the Jewish invaders in middle east
Don't you mean zionist
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Is there a statue of limitation on generations of systematic oppression all stemming from brutal imperialism? No, seems kinda dumb for an imperialist to put that in their own law, considering.
You're right, everybody needs to continue fighting over millenia long grudges. That's what leftism is all about.
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You're right, everybody needs to continue fighting over millenia long grudges. That's what leftism is all about.
I suppose youre the ultimate authority on what is just and unjust?
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I suppose youre the ultimate authority on what is just and unjust?
3000 years ago, those knife-eared bastards double-crossed us, and now none of us dwarves would be caught dead associating with any elf.
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3000 years ago, those knife-eared bastards double-crossed us, and now none of us dwarves would be caught dead associating with any elf.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You digress
Edit: youre like 5 sentences away from admitting harm reduction is the only way to sort these problems and im here for it.
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Ok so I actually have a degree in Poli Sci and another degree in Econ, I have read quite a lot of theory, often got into arguments with my NeoLiberal professors over things like the IMF, WorldBank, how to evaluate systemic risk in financial markets, the idea of bailing out Wall Street during the GFC instead of jailing them all as corrupt, as Iceland did, once got a bad mark on a paper about conflict goods because my PoliSci prof simply refused to acknowledge that US Army troops were guarding opium farms in Afghanistan, independently sought out and studied modern Marxist econonmists outside of the scope of course work, etc etc.
I want you to explain, in a couple sentences, or paragraphs if you need to... how the situation I described above either is not settler colonialism, or is a wildly innacurate mischaracterization of the situation, or some mix of both.
Not just yell 'read theory!' at me and give me an author name.
I do not need the entire concept of settler colonialism explained to me. I am familiar with it.
If you've read and understood Fanon, you should be able to... you know, make that argument.
Succinctly.
In your own words.
Otherwise you're just a pretentious hipster, arrogantly name dropping authors and scoffing.
tankies aren’t usually ones for rationalism or any sort of debate/dialectic, i sincerely doubt you’ll get a response bc he knows he’s gonna get trounced on and revealed as an idiot the moment he attempts to do it.
can’t blame you tho, I like playing around with it sometimes too. it’s like, the opposite of trolling imo. you just hit them with stone-cold rigor and they troll themselves out of frustration lmao.
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What are you talking about the russians already lived in donbass which is why they voted to secede when the banderites started bombing them. Its not like settler colonialism at all.
That doesn't explain why Russians have been occupying land in Ukraine for all that time. When an imperialist state conquers territory, it occupies the land in order to legitimize its claim it.
They are there, because Ukraine has been a vassal state to Russia, with its people treated as second-class citizens, for centuries. During that time, they have oscillated back and forth in status from rebellion to re-conquered, many times. This is just the latest wave of Russian oppression intended to crush dissent and re-establish Russian dominance over Ukraine through the russification of Ukrainian culture, language and identity. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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But many do, and did historically, as it was part of Russia prior to the USSR.
But I have a genuine question: suppose that the majority of people living in Donbass genuinely wanted to break off and become part of Russia. Should they be allowed to, and if so, what steps should they have taken to make it happen, in the context that the government banned major opposition parties that were sympathetic towards Russia? What are you supposed to do, exactly, when the country is moving in a direction that you disagree with and shutting the opposition out of the political process, after seizing power through force?
A downvote is not an answer, btw.
wrote last edited by [email protected]All that says, is that you are this close to admitting that Ukraine has been an occupied territory for centuries. Except you are using that fact as a justification for continued occupation, and not a reason for Russia to stop their colonial objectives.
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I know. I 'support' (for lack of a better term because I have not actually done shit for them) Palestinians. But hamas is another matter and I won't pretend they are the good guys.
Hamas are the product of the Israeli regime. if there was no apartheid there would be no Hamas. also they're nowhere near as bad as the IOF.
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you genuinely don't know what colonialism is
Colonialism is when a country I don't like does a thing I don't like somewhere else. Imperialism is when any country attacks any other.
There, who needs books when it's that simple, tankies?
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Eastern Ukrainians weren't grateful to be bombed by NATO-funded banderites for several years in the donbass, nor were most Ukrainians glad to have their government overthrown in a US-backed coup in 2014.
@dessalines And yet they still fight Putin. Go figure.
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Colonialism is when a country I don't like does a thing I don't like somewhere else. Imperialism is when any country attacks any other.
There, who needs books when it's that simple, tankies?
Colonialism is when two countries have a war
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All that says, is that you are this close to admitting that Ukraine has been an occupied territory for centuries. Except you are using that fact as a justification for continued occupation, and not a reason for Russia to stop their colonial objectives.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's not what it says. Your refusal to engage with evidence has you pretending you found a gotcha because you assume anything that disagrees with you has to be based on a flawed premise.
You're literally ignoring the facts he presented (maidan was a coup, Donbas collectively decided to secede in a referendum). The people of the Donbas were resisting an attempted genocide as much as Gazans, you can listen to Poroshenko's statements about bombing their hospitals, having their women and children hiding in basements, you can see the indiscriminate shelling of civilian centers. Both of them were propped up by your government (the lapdog of the only empire on earth rn), and by you personally, from your stupid refusal to acknowledge actual imperialism and pretending the enemies of the State Department must be the enemies of all of us everywhere.
