What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.
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Thats a windows thing so it can put files in "protected" folders like program files
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:45 last edited byWhat's with this anyway? A remnant from the single-user days?
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I didnt realize Steam would do that. There have been several times where EULAs changed or malware was added a year or more later and I just assumed I had no recourse.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:46 last edited byDépend on the backslash they get.
I have to admit it didn't work each time.
Last time I did it was for a psn account requirement added after they sold it -
That's a typo from an i to an o, commenter probably meant possessing but made a mistake and tried to type posseding, I suspect their native language is french given their username and "to possess" in french is "posséder".
That being said, a possedong sounds intriguing
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:48 last edited byDo you do osint ? ... That pretty Mich on point. I use a English/French keyboard and sometime autocorrect do strange things.
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Sincerely thank you for commenting. I was completely dumbfounded with @Warl0k3@lemmy.world's statement and wasn't sure if I wanted to waste my time with a response if it was just trolling.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:53 last edited by warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 Jun 2025, 15:54If that's all it takes to dumbfound you, I am profoundly jealous. Anyways.
Those aren't the claims fauxliving was making. They claim that there is no indication of taketwo requesting root level access and they're strictly right, there is no language requesting that permission (or equivalents) (but I doubt that would matter to TakeTwo since they could argue it's implicit)
They then claim that there has been no change to the game to include kernel level anticheat, which is also true.
What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute those claims, just the claims made in the OP. Fauxliving's comment was arguably off base, sure, but substantially their points are correct.
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I actually tried this with BL2 last week and got told "no, you've owned it for almost 10 years"
I find it hard to disagree with that notion, but also have a pirated copy with my saves backed up ready to fucking go
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:57 last edited byYeah it didn't work each time.I don't remember the specific game, I think they got a huge backslash with some game and I kept asking for refund and telling them I disagree with EULA update which made my game unusable.
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This thread makes me wish we could have a discussion community where we exclude Americans. Even the left are nuts over there now. Nothing but name calling and shit slinging. Glad your country is drowning
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 19:58 last edited byHahaha, you killed me. XD
You have problem with the default country ? -
If that's all it takes to dumbfound you, I am profoundly jealous. Anyways.
Those aren't the claims fauxliving was making. They claim that there is no indication of taketwo requesting root level access and they're strictly right, there is no language requesting that permission (or equivalents) (but I doubt that would matter to TakeTwo since they could argue it's implicit)
They then claim that there has been no change to the game to include kernel level anticheat, which is also true.
What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute those claims, just the claims made in the OP. Fauxliving's comment was arguably off base, sure, but substantially their points are correct.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:01 last edited by"What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute"
There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit
We also may use internal and third-party anti-cheat technologies
prepare to be even more profoundly jealous because I'm profoundly dumbfounded at this point.
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Ok so that explains the bad reviews, but why is steam giving the game away for free? Also BL3 is heavily discounted
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I sometimes wonder what will happen when EAC, that has root access to millions of PCs, gets compromised or has grunty employee and pushes malicious update
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:18 last edited bySame thing that happened to genshin when it's anti cheats got compromised I would guess. Not a lot and everyone ends up not caring.
Because normal people do not give a single fuck about the technical aspect of data privacy.
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"What you presented does nothing to substantiate or refute"
There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit
We also may use internal and third-party anti-cheat technologies
prepare to be even more profoundly jealous because I'm profoundly dumbfounded at this point.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:18 last edited byI don't really know how else to phrase this, but I'll give it a shot anyways: Anti-cheat isn't intrinsically linked to root level permissions. It's inclusion in a section about data sources compounds that concept. That is the claim that you are now making, and which isn't supported by the section you've cited.
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It probably spys on you already.
The company that makes the Overwolf game launcher is an Israli cyber security company that gets money from the US.
Tencent spys on people for China through a lot of the games they own.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:26 last edited byHoly fuck I did not know about Overwolf. That's the last time I download something from my, apparently, dipshit friend (no, this is not the only stupid thing he's done).
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Holy fuck I did not know about Overwolf. That's the last time I download something from my, apparently, dipshit friend (no, this is not the only stupid thing he's done).
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:29 last edited byHey, maybe your friend didn't know either!(nor did i
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I don't really know how else to phrase this, but I'll give it a shot anyways: Anti-cheat isn't intrinsically linked to root level permissions. It's inclusion in a section about data sources compounds that concept. That is the claim that you are now making, and which isn't supported by the section you've cited.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:42 last edited byIt is also worth nothing that no Borderlands games use anti-cheat, much less kernel anti-cheat. I'd even go as far as to say that no Gearbox, Take2 or 2k Games use kernel anti-cheat.
This is boilerplate language for games which include an online service component. Publishers often use the same Terms of Service across all of their games, so they include language that is often irrelevant for any specific game.
The only thing that's different about this is that there are a bunch of bored people who consume engagement farming content, which often make outrageous claims in order to earn money from engagement farming. This "story" is not an actual story, but it is a great example of how a mob can be summoned with some creative writing and a credulous audience.
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I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:43 last edited byIIRC Borderlands 3 scales the value of loot to the game's difficulty setting, with some mechanics aimed at encouraging players to join online coops at high difficulties in order to earn more valuable loot. I imagine cheats undermine that intent, and I also imagine borderlands 4 might be aiming at a pay to play scheme.
I'm guessing this EULA is being used for all their IP with the intent of taking advantage of it in the future.
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Do you do osint ? ... That pretty Mich on point. I use a English/French keyboard and sometime autocorrect do strange things.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:48 last edited byI had to look this up... looks like it's a whole thing
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Hey, maybe your friend didn't know either!(nor did i
)wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:48 last edited byYes that's the problem, he doesn't know a lot of things. He also doesn't seem very keen on learning them.
He's young, so I still have hope for him but god damnit he's stupid and a potential hazard apparently.
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We haven’t gotten another Middle Earth game because it had an online requirement
Now look where we are
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 20:56 last edited byHey, you posted this twice. Pretty easy to do, if your initial post does not go through and you hit Reply again…
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If you go to the right sites you won’t get any malicious code. Stop spreading corpo propaganda.
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 21:03 last edited byThere is nuance here. Not every crack is malicious but you have to assume they all are because some of them are. Trusting a source is irrelevant. Many security products will falsely tag cracked software as dangerous just because it’s cracked, not because it found a specific bit of nasty code, and this feeds the idea that you can’t believe when people tell you cracked software is unsafe. But there are many truly bad cracks out there. When in doubt, don’t trust it.
And you should always doubt free shit.
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Ok so that explains the bad reviews, but why is steam giving the game away for free? Also BL3 is heavily discounted
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 21:43 last edited byI think it's up to the publisher, and not steam, to give the game away for free.
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It seems like you're giving of a "victim" vibe with this by stating you wished for only a particular type of "positive response" when you've posted a misleading comment and doubled-down with "EULAs half the people in this thread have already clicked thru" which you have no way of knowing.
Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do?
10.2. Updates, Modifications, and Sunset. We may provide patches, updates, or upgrades to the Services, Virtual Items, Content, or your Account that may be required for you to continue using the Services, including automatic or “in the background” updates without notice to you.
"Was hoping for more of a ‘you’re late, you have a bunch of homework to catch up on’" You're expecting others to hold your hand and inform you of every event or action taken by every company. I guess I'll do my part since I have been trying to let other people know for a while now,
StormGate - Privacy Policy and End User Agreement. Is this just the new industry standard to avoid? (post made by me 10 months ago)
Why don't you see it more?
Steam Discussion deleted after questioning the "EULA" of Stormgate, another post by me after I tried to inform others and was suppressed, meaning the reviews is the only course of action that most have at their disposal. Even posting on their official subreddit did no good with the exact same type of response you've presented here,
Why am I consenting to have my "Medical Information", "Browser/Search History", "Social Security/Drivers License number", "Geolocation and movements", and more collected to play Stormgate? (22k members, only 122 upvotes)
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- They didn't collect such information (they technically couldn't), they are giving examples of such types of personally identifiable information.
- Yeah, it's excessive, they don't need half of this. However, writing it this way makes it near impossible for them to screw up by accident. If you play games, you probably agreed to a handful of ELUA's like that by now.
- This keeps getting brought up in every controversial game these days and the answer is always the same: They aren't.
- Most of this is not out of the ordinary.
- Imagine thinking all of this information about you isn't already owned by several corporations lol.
- Some of these stuffs are required in X countries not yours, stop thinking the entire world is all about you buddy.
You've officially become part of the problem and an ally to the very same reason why we can't "accomplish the organized action needed for real change (than leaving a bunch of negative reviews.)"
wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 22:19 last edited byMan I’m tired.
