What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.
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I guess his premise, that it's for edgy teens. Heck, half the pop references were ancient on launch.
You would've been 16 years old on launch if you're 39 now though.
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So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...
I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...
wrote last edited by [email protected]Let's try this logic on other things. Their EULA says they can cut off a finger whenever they want. They haven't cut off my finger for my purchase of this game, call me back when they cut it off.
If you're someone that doesn't want companies to have root level access to your computer, waiting until it happens is silly when they're telling you it's gonna happen. It is every reason to complain and be concerned.
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If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo
Making up scenarios and claiming to know what the response would be sure is a way to make an argument.
I mean, the worse most laughable way, but it's a way indeed.
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That's a nice thought, and they should do that, but you've gotta do better at picking and choosing your moments
I'm not the guy that guy replied to.
Just a random guy who thinks Gabe can put his foot down with these publishers. They already all tried going without Steam and they came crawling back.
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If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo
Objection! Speculative
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Steam refunded me multiple time for game where EULA changed and I disagreed with it. I told them that the EULA changed to include spyware capabilities and I don't agree with the EULA change.
I didnt realize Steam would do that. There have been several times where EULAs changed or malware was added a year or more later and I just assumed I had no recourse.
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You would've been 16 years old on launch if you're 39 now though.
True, but I've been couch-cooping them only recently.
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So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...
I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...
I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder.
So you're an idiot?
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Steam refunded me multiple time for game where EULA changed and I disagreed with it. I told them that the EULA changed to include spyware capabilities and I don't agree with the EULA change.
I actually tried this with BL2 last week and got told "no, you've owned it for almost 10 years"
I find it hard to disagree with that notion, but also have a pirated copy with my saves backed up ready to fucking go
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ļø is free and without shenanigans.giving root level access to russian crackers instead
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He said they added a kernel level anticheat in the TOS which is true. But they seem to have not included it in the game yet. But they tell that by possedong the game you allow them to.
Edit : typo but can't correct "possedong" nowpossedong
I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word
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So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...
I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...
Lol go home Randy, you're drunk.
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I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.
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He said it, root access level in the TOS of BorderLand. Not that a root kit is included, but that they allowed them self to inclid it whenever they can. That not misinformation...
He said it
That not misinformationā¦
It is misinformation if the things he said are not true.
So, let's look into the claims.
Here's the TOS:
https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/
There is nothing about root level access.
In addition, if you look at the patch history for Borderlands 2 on SteamDB, you will see that the last update for the game was 4 August 2022.
So, to be clear:
There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit and there is no spyware that has been added. The comment in the OP is simply wrong.
This is what happens when you simply read social media and repeat what you've heard without checking to see if you're spreading misinformation.
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I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.
See you're looking at it from the point of view that it would serve the player experience, but that's not what it's for, it's to mine your data
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giving root level access to russian crackers instead
Shh, the kids don't want to hear about the dark side of free things (oh hey, a new Meta service!)
/s
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possedong
I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's a typo from an i to an o, commenter probably meant possessing but made a mistake and tried to type posseding, I suspect their native language is french given their username and "to possess" in french is "possƩder".
That being said, a possedong sounds intriguing
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giving root level access to russian crackers instead
If you go to the right sites you wonāt get any malicious code. Stop spreading corpo propaganda.
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So...if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even see...really?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Soā¦if Steam is running in a Flatpak, and Borderlands is launched from Steam, how much can they even seeā¦really?
Without using exploits to escape the container, not much. A very empty Windows environment with a single game installed, your network interfaces and any directories that the Flatpak has access to (usually just the SteamLibrary directories).
The TOS (https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/) changes are mostly related to data that they collect via their interfacing with Steam and through their website. This idea that they're requiring you to agree to a root level access or installing a spyware rootkit is just nonsense.
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Let's try this logic on other things. Their EULA says they can cut off a finger whenever they want. They haven't cut off my finger for my purchase of this game, call me back when they cut it off.
If you're someone that doesn't want companies to have root level access to your computer, waiting until it happens is silly when they're telling you it's gonna happen. It is every reason to complain and be concerned.
It's probably a common EULA for all games, so they probably added it to carify the terms for some other game that includes it.
