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What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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  • G godwins_law@lemmy.ca
    6 Jun 2025, 11:19

    I object to that for XCOM

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    dacotaco@lemmy.world
    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 13:00 last edited by
    #115

    True, it was always bad 😛

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    • B blackmist@feddit.uk
      6 Jun 2025, 12:19

      You're right that it's not Valve they're mad at, buuuuut....

      They could regulate that no games they sell can have rootkits and delist the ones that do, as well as offer refunds if a rootkit is patched in in the future. They have lots of rules already, and I don't think that would be a bad one.

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      a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world
      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 13:11 last edited by
      #116

      That's a nice thought, and they should do that, but you've gotta do better at picking and choosing your moments

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      • B bimbimboy@lemm.ee
        5 Jun 2025, 17:45
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        theobvioussolution@lemm.ee
        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 13:26 last edited by theobvioussolution@lemm.ee 6 Jun 2025, 09:28
        #117

        So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...

        I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...

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        • K kadup@lemmy.world
          6 Jun 2025, 12:05

          What's Steam got to do with Borderlands 2 having a rootkit?

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          but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 13:53 last edited by
          #118

          If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo

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          • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
            6 Jun 2025, 13:53

            If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo

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            outlierblue@lemmy.ca
            wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:04 last edited by
            #119

            But it's not. So don't make up scenarios and then claim persecution when people downvote you.

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            • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
              6 Jun 2025, 11:41

              Don’t speak I’ll of steam and billionaire Gabe around here. The steam bros are gonna crucify you for daring to even think ill of THEIR corporation and THEIR billionaire who of course loves and cares for them all.

              Edit: there it is 🤣

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              agrivar@lemmy.world
              wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:09 last edited by
              #120

              Your mom is wrong. You are not even slightly cool.

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              • R red@sopuli.xyz
                6 Jun 2025, 06:51

                I guess his premise, that it's for edgy teens. Heck, half the pop references were ancient on launch.

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                jackbydev@programming.dev
                wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:19 last edited by
                #121

                You would've been 16 years old on launch if you're 39 now though.

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                • T theobvioussolution@lemm.ee
                  6 Jun 2025, 13:26

                  So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...

                  I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...

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                  monkrome@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:21 last edited by monkrome@lemmy.world 6 Jun 2025, 10:22
                  #122

                  Let's try this logic on other things. Their EULA says they can cut off a finger whenever they want. They haven't cut off my finger for my purchase of this game, call me back when they cut it off.

                  If you're someone that doesn't want companies to have root level access to your computer, waiting until it happens is silly when they're telling you it's gonna happen. It is every reason to complain and be concerned.

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                  • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                    6 Jun 2025, 13:53

                    If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo

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                    kadup@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:23 last edited by
                    #123

                    Making up scenarios and claiming to know what the response would be sure is a way to make an argument.

                    I mean, the worse most laughable way, but it's a way indeed.

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                    • A a_union_of_kobolds@lemmy.world
                      6 Jun 2025, 13:11

                      That's a nice thought, and they should do that, but you've gotta do better at picking and choosing your moments

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                      blackmist@feddit.uk
                      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:32 last edited by
                      #124

                      I'm not the guy that guy replied to.

                      Just a random guy who thinks Gabe can put his foot down with these publishers. They already all tried going without Steam and they came crawling back.

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                      • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
                        6 Jun 2025, 13:53

                        If this was on PSN or the Nintendo shop, everyone downvoting me would be up in arms blaming Sony and Nintendo

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                        revolversly@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:33 last edited by
                        #125

                        Objection! Speculative

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                        • D diurnambule@jlai.lu
                          6 Jun 2025, 12:59

                          Steam refunded me multiple time for game where EULA changed and I disagreed with it. I told them that the EULA changed to include spyware capabilities and I don't agree with the EULA change.

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                          blametheantifa@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:35 last edited by
                          #126

                          I didnt realize Steam would do that. There have been several times where EULAs changed or malware was added a year or more later and I just assumed I had no recourse.

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                          • J jackbydev@programming.dev
                            6 Jun 2025, 14:19

                            You would've been 16 years old on launch if you're 39 now though.

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                            red@sopuli.xyz
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:43 last edited by
                            #127

                            True, but I've been couch-cooping them only recently.

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                            • T theobvioussolution@lemm.ee
                              6 Jun 2025, 13:26

                              So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...

                              I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...

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                              gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:55 last edited by
                              #128

                              I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder.

                              So you're an idiot?

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                              • D diurnambule@jlai.lu
                                6 Jun 2025, 12:59

                                Steam refunded me multiple time for game where EULA changed and I disagreed with it. I told them that the EULA changed to include spyware capabilities and I don't agree with the EULA change.

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                                gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 14:57 last edited by
                                #129

                                I actually tried this with BL2 last week and got told "no, you've owned it for almost 10 years"

                                I find it hard to disagree with that notion, but also have a pirated copy with my saves backed up ready to fucking go

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                                • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
                                  6 Jun 2025, 11:21

                                  🏴‍☠️ is free and without shenanigans.

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                                  nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                  wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 15:03 last edited by
                                  #130

                                  giving root level access to russian crackers instead

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                                  • D diurnambule@jlai.lu
                                    6 Jun 2025, 12:56

                                    He said they added a kernel level anticheat in the TOS which is true. But they seem to have not included it in the game yet. But they tell that by possedong the game you allow them to.
                                    Edit : typo but can't correct "possedong" now

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                                    wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                    wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 15:08 last edited by
                                    #131

                                    possedong

                                    I'd like to know how your autocorrect learned this word

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                                    • T theobvioussolution@lemm.ee
                                      6 Jun 2025, 13:26

                                      So 50% score loss because of a permissive EULA, got it ...

                                      I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder. Call me back when they do actually include a rootkit in their games instead of jumping the gun because loud feelings say loud things. If only there was some way to get statistics of the people getting outraged because of posts in a subreddit community and the people who don't have a problem with rootkits installed by their favorite MMOs...

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                                      myfriendgodzilla@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 15:10 last edited by
                                      #132

                                      Lol go home Randy, you're drunk.

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                                      • B bimbimboy@lemm.ee
                                        5 Jun 2025, 17:45
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                                        omega_jimes@lemmy.ca
                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 15:11 last edited by
                                        #133

                                        I just don't understand anticheat or copy protection on PvE games. I can understand it if you don't want to play against a cheater, but this is a cooperative shooter.

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                                        • D diurnambule@jlai.lu
                                          6 Jun 2025, 12:54

                                          He said it, root access level in the TOS of BorderLand. Not that a root kit is included, but that they allowed them self to inclid it whenever they can. That not misinformation...

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                                          fauxliving@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 15:29 last edited by
                                          #134

                                          He said it

                                          That not misinformation…

                                          It is misinformation if the things he said are not true.

                                          So, let's look into the claims.

                                          Here's the TOS:

                                          https://www.take2games.com/legal/en-US/

                                          There is nothing about root level access.

                                          In addition, if you look at the patch history for Borderlands 2 on SteamDB, you will see that the last update for the game was 4 August 2022.

                                          So, to be clear:

                                          There is nothing in the TOS that requires you to submit to a rootkit and there is no spyware that has been added. The comment in the OP is simply wrong.


                                          This is what happens when you simply read social media and repeat what you've heard without checking to see if you're spreading misinformation.

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