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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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  • C [email protected]

    Honestly, in my opinion, there's too many games to justify buying it at all. I enjoyed one and two when I was a kid, and there wasn't competition for the genre. Three I think was free on Epic or something, so I played and it was fine, but not great. I don't expect much from four, and there's companies I'd actually like to support instead.

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    I can't tell you exactly why, but as much as I played and replayed borderlands 1&2, the third one didn't interest me at all, I can see that the recipe used the same ingredients but it just didn't taste the same to contribute the metaphor. It just bored me and my wife during our coop campaign, and we didn't have any desire to continue our playthrough. I hope they get it back with four but I don't trust them enough anymore to buy it blindly anyway.

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      Yeah I'm really starting to feel like we're gonna see a lot of these companies shift from doing big AAA games to instead publishing small indie games. Almost all of these big companies have indie publishing arms now and as they start to see good profits from those without having to take on the cost of paying devs themselves I wouldn't be surprised if they start cutting back on their own dev teams and shifting to that.

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      Honestly I am all for if it means that we get original games again from big studios, I can't get hyped anymore for yet another sequel or remaster.

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        I agree, but when you wouldn't let Aspyr do a Linux port for BL3, I stopped being a "real fan".

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          BL2 had unique blues which were OP.

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          Ah, that's true! Anything with flavor text- red text in the description- is an exception to the normal rarities.

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            Guess I'm not a real fan. Fuck you Randy. He's such a cunt.

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            While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
            Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
            When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

            https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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              He's too busy collecting child porn to bother with running his business.

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              Uh, source? It seems like if this were true he'd be in cuffs.

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                And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

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                  While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                  Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                  When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                  https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                  If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it's this asshole

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                    I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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                      In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                      Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                      Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                        Nope, just would play Tiny Tina's Wonderland again honestly, which I got for around $10 when it was heavily on sale a year ago.

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                          In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                          Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                          Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                          Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

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                            Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)

                            Callender's suit alleges that Pitchford "breached his fiduciary duties by exploiting Gearbox employees and property to fund Pitchford’s private cravings," and one portion of the suit makes two sensational accusations about Pitchford's behavior: that he accidentally left a selection of "underage" pornography on a USB stick at a restaurant, and that he used his company's money to host parties where "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Pitchford."

                            How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?

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                              Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store.
                              Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.

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                                Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store.
                                Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.

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                                How is the game being available make people wait? Did PC get the release before consoles?

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                                  While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                                  Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                                  When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                                  https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                                  I've not heard a single good thing about him. He's just a toolbag through and through.

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                                    Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)

                                    Callender's suit alleges that Pitchford "breached his fiduciary duties by exploiting Gearbox employees and property to fund Pitchford’s private cravings," and one portion of the suit makes two sensational accusations about Pitchford's behavior: that he accidentally left a selection of "underage" pornography on a USB stick at a restaurant, and that he used his company's money to host parties where "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Pitchford."

                                    How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?

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                                    Laws only apply to us poors.

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                                      I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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                                      Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.

                                      Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he's not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.

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                                        In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                                        Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                                        Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                                        I'm actually OK with games costing a bit more to sell if they cost a lot to make; god knows, the devs deserve to get paid properly. But, one, that money won't actually make it to the devs, and two, any time Randy Pitchford is for something it's really hard not to automatically be against it, on the assumption that he's so consistently wrong about everything, and just such an unbelievable piece of shit, that just assuming he's in the wrong is the safest bet.

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                                          How is the game being available make people wait? Did PC get the release before consoles?

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                                          Steam customers are out of the loop.
                                          We could access the game through epic store, but it's a separate account, and not everybody has/want one. Hence the wait to release on Steam.

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