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What's going on with Borderlands 2? Steam is giving it for free, but the game has 23% positive recent reviews.

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  • vavakado@infosec.pubV [email protected]

    Hey, maybe your friend didn't know either!(nor did i😭)

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    #184

    Yes that's the problem, he doesn't know a lot of things. He also doesn't seem very keen on learning them.

    He's young, so I still have hope for him but god damnit he's stupid and a potential hazard apparently.

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      We haven’t gotten another Middle Earth game because it had an online requirement

      Now look where we are

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      #185

      Hey, you posted this twice. Pretty easy to do, if your initial post does not go through and you hit Reply again…

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      • repletelocum@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

        If you go to the right sites you won’t get any malicious code. Stop spreading corpo propaganda.

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        There is nuance here. Not every crack is malicious but you have to assume they all are because some of them are. Trusting a source is irrelevant. Many security products will falsely tag cracked software as dangerous just because it’s cracked, not because it found a specific bit of nasty code, and this feeds the idea that you can’t believe when people tell you cracked software is unsafe. But there are many truly bad cracks out there. When in doubt, don’t trust it.

        And you should always doubt free shit.

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          Ok so that explains the bad reviews, but why is steam giving the game away for free? Also BL3 is heavily discounted

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          I think it's up to the publisher, and not steam, to give the game away for free.

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          • C [email protected]

            It seems like you're giving of a "victim" vibe with this by stating you wished for only a particular type of "positive response" when you've posted a misleading comment and doubled-down with "EULAs half the people in this thread have already clicked thru" which you have no way of knowing.

            Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌

            10.2. Updates, Modifications, and Sunset. We may provide patches, updates, or upgrades to the Services, Virtual Items, Content, or your Account that may be required for you to continue using the Services, including automatic or “in the background” updates without notice to you.

            "Was hoping for more of a ‘you’re late, you have a bunch of homework to catch up on’" You're expecting others to hold your hand and inform you of every event or action taken by every company. I guess I'll do my part since I have been trying to let other people know for a while now,

            StormGate - Privacy Policy and End User Agreement. Is this just the new industry standard to avoid? (post made by me 10 months ago)

            Why don't you see it more?

            Steam Discussion deleted after questioning the "EULA" of Stormgate, another post by me after I tried to inform others and was suppressed, meaning the reviews is the only course of action that most have at their disposal. Even posting on their official subreddit did no good with the exact same type of response you've presented here,

            Why am I consenting to have my "Medical Information", "Browser/Search History", "Social Security/Drivers License number", "Geolocation and movements", and more collected to play Stormgate? (22k members, only 122 upvotes)

            (the responses)

            • They didn't collect such information (they technically couldn't), they are giving examples of such types of personally identifiable information.
            • Yeah, it's excessive, they don't need half of this. However, writing it this way makes it near impossible for them to screw up by accident. If you play games, you probably agreed to a handful of ELUA's like that by now.
            • This keeps getting brought up in every controversial game these days and the answer is always the same: They aren't.
            • Most of this is not out of the ordinary.
            • Imagine thinking all of this information about you isn't already owned by several corporations lol.
            • Some of these stuffs are required in X countries not yours, stop thinking the entire world is all about you buddy.

            You've officially become part of the problem and an ally to the very same reason why we can't "accomplish the organized action needed for real change (than leaving a bunch of negative reviews.)"

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            Man I’m tired.

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              lemmy yet again falls for the ragebait hook line and sinker

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                Same thing that happened to genshin when it's anti cheats got compromised I would guess. Not a lot and everyone ends up not caring.

                Because normal people do not give a single fuck about the technical aspect of data privacy.

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                That's right. I'm not lying at all when I say that none of my friends care about privacy. It's actually quite frustrating.

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                • lemjukes@lemm.eeL [email protected]
                  • Did the EULA change? ✅
                  • Were all Take Two games automatically updated in secret and now hijack your machine with root access to spy on everything you do? ❌
                  • Do Take Two games contain code to report telemetry and user information(including application/system activity) to a home server? ✅
                  • Is this EULA change extraordinary and particularly egregious in comparison to others that most people have probably already agreed to? ❌(IMO)
                  • Are people riled up because e a YouTube video went a little viral and now they’re all playing telephone to the point where it’s now gotten to the point of random dumdums are review booming a 13 year old game claiming it’s turned into literal spyware? ✅(again, IMO)
                  • Should you be surprised by any of this if you’ve been even remotely paying attention for any period of the last 30-40 years? ❌
                  • Do we need more than just angry idiots in the battle against corpatocracy? ✅

                  We should be done coddling the late comers at this point. Yes welcome them and accept them, but at a certain point your level of ignorance became a detriment to your community and you should be made aware of that fact.

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                  #191

                  Pretty much nailed it, yep.

                  A youtuber named Hellfire has been on a spree, basically discovering how fucked up EULAs have been in games for the past 20ish years... well this is all brand new news to him and and his Zoomer / Gen A followers.

                  There is, as of right now, literally zero evidence that Borderlands 2 has been updated with a rootkit, with kernel level anti cheat, anything like that.

                  The last update to its game files was 2 years ago.

                  This is almost certainly them updating the EULA everywhere, the precise timing of this being for some specific arcane legal and business reasons... TakeTwo runs a whole bunch more games than juat Borderlands... namely GTA V...

                  ...

                  Is this EULA bad? Yes.

                  Is it much worse than it was before, or what other large gaming companies EULAs have, and have had for... a decade+?

                  Maybe by a bit, but not really, no.

                  ...

                  Is Randy Pitchford a dumb idiot asshole?

                  Oh absolutely yes, but that shouldn't give people the liscense to make completely unevidenced claims about other things.

                  ...

                  The game does not have a kernel level AC or some kind of rootkit DRM, as many, many people are currently saying it does.

                  I guess gamer attention span can really hold onto a few keywords and phrases at a time.

                  ... I say this all as person who is vehemently against kernel level AC, who has been pointing out for 4 years, that almost all existing anti cheat systems currently have at least one game that implements their AC, on linux, without using kernel level anything.... it is entirely possible to do AC without kernel level shit, even on linux, and has been for at least 4 years. EAC and BattleEye have supported linux for 4 years, but nearly no game that uses them has actually used this feature/available and offered support.

                  I am glad that this level of hate is finally being directed at shitty EULAs, but lets at least get our facts straight, or actually provide some hitherto unseen evidence that Borderlands has had some kind of sleeper malware in it for at least the past two years, just waiting to be activated by a TOS update to every single Take Two game.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    What's with this anyway? A remnant from the single-user days?

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                    Some software installers still ask if I want to install for all users, which require elevated permissions, or only for me, which don't. In that last option it will not prompt for elevated permissions as it will use one of my user's folders which I have already all permissions for, obviously.

                    It's a security measure that's half assed. People are so used to it they just click allow but don't actually look at the prompt anymore. Like I see a lot of people do with cookies on websites.

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                      giving root level access to russian crackers instead

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                      Damn, its such a shame you can't run a crack in a vm, or on linux via WINE and Proton, aw shucks.

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                        This thread makes me wish we could have a discussion community where we exclude Americans. Even the left are nuts over there now. Nothing but name calling and shit slinging. Glad your country is drowning

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                        Cry moar, I'll never see your blocked ass again 🙂

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                          I apparently love downvotes but here goes: All the Borderlands games (annoying childish cell-shaded skinner-box) and everything Gearbox is and has ever created it utter shit. The CEO is a garbage person, and thier dealings with Epic is Capitalist-Oink-Piggy shite! ""FUCK YOU 2K & GEARBOX, AND FUCK YOU BORDERLANDS!"

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                          Yep, I am jumping in with you on this one.

                          The cell-shaded art style? Not the problem, imo.

                          The problem is the just astoundingly terrible writing, immensely insufferable characters, and astonishingly brain dead gameplay.

                          Why have weapon balance ortactically interesting scenarios or any real sense of progression in gameplay when we can just procedurally generate guns and do everything we can to make everything into roughly the same level of bullet sponge with auto levelling?

                          They are the lowest common denominator of co-op shooter games, made for people who enjoy bombastic sensory overload and near zero prefrontal cortex brain activity while gaming.

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                            Precise location information? Wtf for?

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                            So that they can have a back door to as many private computers as possible.

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                            • H [email protected]

                              I had to look this up... looks like it's a whole thing

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                              Really ? I though, since you used a though process used in osint.
                              Osint is open sources intelligences, it is looking for data about something/someone in data available for all

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                                That's right. I'm not lying at all when I say that none of my friends care about privacy. It's actually quite frustrating.

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                                Yup, same here. As long as it's convenient, my friends/family don't care what is taken from them.

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                                • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG [email protected]

                                  I'll just leave this in the "Pitchforks against Pitchford" and "Woke, must hate" folder.

                                  So you're an idiot?

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                                  People do complain about rootkits, but a reaction on this scale means it might be more fitting for you to reply to the mirror.

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                                    Lol go home Randy, you're drunk.

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                                    ... Do you really believe I am Randy Pitchford? Whow, so that's the bar for IQ around these parts ...

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                                      Let's try this logic on other things. Their EULA says they can cut off a finger whenever they want. They haven't cut off my finger for my purchase of this game, call me back when they cut it off.

                                      If you're someone that doesn't want companies to have root level access to your computer, waiting until it happens is silly when they're telling you it's gonna happen. It is every reason to complain and be concerned.

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                                      No offense, but have you ever read EULAs? Even Windows EULA has a lot of "cut off a finger" provisions. It's invasive, and people are right to complain. People might cry Linux, but when their job requires them to use Windows and abide by that EULA, most will crumble.

                                      Like it or not, most EULAs are legally binding bullshit that more often than not has to be ignored or bypassed outside of it if necessary. How many people are watching YouTube and ignoring their Terms of Service while using adblockers?

                                      This is nothing new in the world of gaming, and to the scale of affecting over 50% of the score of a game for a provision that is often included in other games they have no problem with is what's revealing. A lot of MMOs and many multiplayer games do, but people haven't cried wolf outside of a minority of their community. Pitchford has given his explanation, that it is a matter of the 2K EULA Gearbox has to adopt.

                                      Let’s try this logic on other things. Are all 2K games that have this in their newly updated EULA's being boycotted? Hint: Civilization is a 2K game.

                                      Some things are just obvious when your head is not stuck inside the ass of a circlejerk bandwagon. It's just sad that some people aren't honest with themselves and and are not willing to recognize how easily they are influenced by people who are holding hidden grudges. Too many games are getting shit on because of this, and I say this as someone who is not looking forward to the next Borderlands game until the discounts drop it well below its 80 dollar price tag several years from now while plenty of loud people in this thread will go out to buy it on day one.

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                                        LOL. I loved the Borderlands franchise, until Epic made their evil dog shit app store and the Borderlands devs sold out to them. Motherfuck Borderlands forever now. Thanks for the warning so I don't accidentally reinstall any of it from Steam.

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                                          Damn, its such a shame you can't run a crack in a vm, or on linux via WINE and Proton, aw shucks.

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                                          and then run whatever modified code it just deployed on the host, yea

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