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  3. In September 2024, "Ty Coon" was replaced with "Moe Ghoul" in the official text file for GPL v2, without changing the version number or URL.

In September 2024, "Ty Coon" was replaced with "Moe Ghoul" in the official text file for GPL v2, without changing the version number or URL.

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  • procapra@lemmy.mlP [email protected]

    I just wanna be edgy and post images of skeletons riding motorcycles T-T

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      I am drunk because I have the belief that everyone should be truly equal in front of the law and that rules about a thing/concept should be valid for all instances of that thing/concept?
      If you think so then, ok I am drunk and go home.
      Have a nice weekend!

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      You're drunk for thinking this is about you.

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        You're drunk for thinking this is about you.

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        We talk about personal opinions, there is not much that is more personal then personal opinions. And you are making ad hominem claims (my soberness) so yes it is about me.

        But it is not me how brought it to the personal level, that was you with calling me drunk.
        Before that it was completely abstract and impersonal.

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          We talk about personal opinions, there is not much that is more personal then personal opinions. And you are making ad hominem claims (my soberness) so yes it is about me.

          But it is not me how brought it to the personal level, that was you with calling me drunk.
          Before that it was completely abstract and impersonal.

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          It's only about you because you made it about you.

          "Ghoul" is not a slur. You saying that seeing an unpleasant word next to a word that reminds you of anime is at all equivalent to a slur is frankly ghastly of you.

          You'd almost have a leg to stand on if they changed it to "Captain Weeaboo" or something, but even then the comparison is a stretch. You're showing up at somebody's funeral to say "I scraped my knee, that's bad too! We're all equal as humans, so I deserve to speak".

          Grow up.

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            It's only about you because you made it about you.

            "Ghoul" is not a slur. You saying that seeing an unpleasant word next to a word that reminds you of anime is at all equivalent to a slur is frankly ghastly of you.

            You'd almost have a leg to stand on if they changed it to "Captain Weeaboo" or something, but even then the comparison is a stretch. You're showing up at somebody's funeral to say "I scraped my knee, that's bad too! We're all equal as humans, so I deserve to speak".

            Grow up.

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            As I said in another post this was only a demonstration that people can read and interpret negative meaning in every combination of words if they really want to. I even gave the definition why "Ghoul" can be read in a negative way, but yeah it is easier to pull the conversation down to the ad hominem level like you did.

            So in that regard was my little demonstration really successful, way more so then I intended.

            To be honest, I don't care at all what they use as a funny wordplay, Moe Ghoul is even funnier than the older choice in my eyes. But my personal opinion about it is irrelevant, sorry that I have one.

            I really think we should end the conversation here, because I already tried to end it with the nice weekend.

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              You begin with "this clearly has nothing to do with racial slurs" and have near the end "they probably changed it because coon is a slur for black people".

              This is self contradictory, both statements can't be true at the same time.

              I am not offended by anything here, I couldn't care less about what they use as fun wordplay in there.

              Had a slow day and lots of free time at a train ride and just want to show that everything written can be misinterpreted and misunderstood. There is a bad meaning or derogatory slang for nearly every word out there.

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              It absolutely can be true, though slightly misworded.

              1. the initial usage had nothing to do with the derogatory term.

              2. upon realizing the relation to the derogatory term they adapted.

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                So instead of a racial slur they now make fun of Anime/Manga/Video Game fans

                "Moe (Japanese: 萌え; pronounced [mo.e] ⓘ), sometimes romanized as moé, is a Japanese word that refers to feelings of strong affection mainly towards characters in anime, manga, video games, and other media directed at the otaku market. Moe, however, has also gained usage to refer to feelings of affection towards any subject"

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

                That in combination with Ghoul

                "In folklore, a ghoul (from Arabic: غول, ghūl) is a demon-like being or monstrous humanoid, often associated with graveyards and the consumption of human flesh"

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoul

                creates a not very nice combination.

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                Everyday I become more secure in my belief that anime should be banned and all "anime fans" should be re-educated.

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                  Everyday I become more secure in my belief that anime should be banned and all "anime fans" should be re-educated.

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                  #47

                  a) ad hominem
                  and b) where did you take the information from that I am an anime fan?
                  Only because I know the definition of the Japanese word "Moe"?
                  A definition that is only one Wikipedia search away.

                  Maybe you should get some education and logical thinking first before you send others into re-education.

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                    It absolutely can be true, though slightly misworded.

                    1. the initial usage had nothing to do with the derogatory term.

                    2. upon realizing the relation to the derogatory term they adapted.

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                    Yes, if you change the complete context and make major changes to the sentences, then both can be true.
                    I am sorry that I made that mistake, I beg for forgiveness

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                      Yes, if you change the complete context and make major changes to the sentences, then both can be true.
                      I am sorry that I made that mistake, I beg for forgiveness

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                      It's not changing the complete sentence, it's recognizing context clues and patterns of language.

                      "This clearly has nothing to do with racial slurs or otaku culture" = the original intention wasn't about a racial slur and the change isn't about mocking Otaku culture. (This is supported when they go on to explain what the actual original intention would be)

                      "They probably changed it because “coon” is a slur for black people and they didn’t want to cause any misunderstandings" = upon realizing the relation to a slur they didn't intend, they changed it.

                      No need for forgiveness, or for passive aggressive condescension.

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