Dave2D - Windows Was The Problem All Along (Lenovo Legion Go Windows 11 vs. SteamOS)
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Who would have predicted, a decade ago, that the path to the actual year of the linux desktop would be taken first through the linux handheld gaming PC?
... Also LoL at SpiderMan 2, the only one that does a single frame worse, which basically at this point is just a solid indicator that game is still unoptimized as all hell.
Old man Gabe has been playing the long game, for all these years.
Ex-MSFT employee on a mission to apparently save us all from MSFT this whole time hahaha
wrote on 26 May 2025, 13:07 last edited byIt's not like all the alternatives to Linux aren't that good. Mac is a walled garden and Windows keeps introducing AI slop feature after AI slop feature that actually publishes your personal information
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It's not like all the alternatives to Linux aren't that good. Mac is a walled garden and Windows keeps introducing AI slop feature after AI slop feature that actually publishes your personal information
wrote on 26 May 2025, 13:58 last edited by sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comI mean, Macs are certainly a viable alternative for many people...
But if you wanna use your PC to play games?
About 25% of Steam's library runs on Mac.
Whereas if you look at ProtonDB, 81% of games are either gold or platinum on Linux in general, 86% if you throw silver in.
That's gonna be a major hangup for a lot of people who want a PC that isn't Windows.
Oh right, that and Macs are all overpriced as fuck for the average consumer, when we are about to enter into the Second Great Depression.
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Windows uses a lot of power just existing, so you can't get any of the windows handhelds down to a low power consumption. I remember when the Rig Ally first came out, the verge tested it using 5-8w of power on the steam deck, and using 16-22w of power on the Ally. Some of that is the hardware (the Deck has a really power efficient chip for low power games), but a lot of it is windows.
wrote on 26 May 2025, 15:02 last edited byThis explains why Windows laptops just randomly start spinning their fans. Random energy consumption -> heat production increased -> fan spins
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This explains why Windows laptops just randomly start spinning their fans. Random energy consumption -> heat production increased -> fan spins
wrote on 26 May 2025, 17:52 last edited byIt takes a lot of power to send half your life to the other side of the world, to MS datawarehouse.
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BuT cAn iT rUn CoD/DeStiNy 2?
wrote on 26 May 2025, 21:01 last edited byKernel-level anti-cheat can go fuck itself.
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BuT cAn iT rUn CoD/DeStiNy 2?
wrote on 27 May 2025, 02:49 last edited byYou joke, but half of my Steam library is incompatible with Steam Deck. Like, I fucking hate Windows, but I'm stuck there for gaming, and I don't even play these multiplayer games. I'm talking Catherine, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Under Night In-Birth II… etc. Niche games all of them.
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I think this screenshot is pretty telling.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:43 last edited byWithout context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
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I mean, Macs are certainly a viable alternative for many people...
But if you wanna use your PC to play games?
About 25% of Steam's library runs on Mac.
Whereas if you look at ProtonDB, 81% of games are either gold or platinum on Linux in general, 86% if you throw silver in.
That's gonna be a major hangup for a lot of people who want a PC that isn't Windows.
Oh right, that and Macs are all overpriced as fuck for the average consumer, when we are about to enter into the Second Great Depression.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:46 last edited by echodot@feddit.ukEvery time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
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Without context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 03:53 last edited by...hence the context in the graph that points out it's on exact same hardware....
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Without context that graph isn't brilliant because it depends on the hardware of the PC. Pretty much every game I run will be better on the steam deck than my PC because my PC is terrible.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 04:22 last edited byThese are both on the Lenovo Legion Go S. The significance here is that there's both official OEM windows and official OEM steamOS for this device.
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YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP
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Do we know if it's entirely coming from SteamOS? Iirc the advantages it had over Windows on the Steam Deck were not even anywhere remotely this pronounced.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 05:29 last edited byWhat else would it be coming from on the exact same hardware?
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Why isn’t this the case with the ROG Ally? Users are reporting negligible to no change on Reddit.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 06:02 last edited byThat's still good isn't it? At worst you're getting on par performance, at best it's better
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I think this screenshot is pretty telling.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 07:04 last edited byThis screenshot is also slightly misleading since the color scheme suggests that 5 out of 5 games run better on SteamOS then on Windows. But if you check the numbers it is only 4 out of 5 games.
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You joke, but half of my Steam library is incompatible with Steam Deck. Like, I fucking hate Windows, but I'm stuck there for gaming, and I don't even play these multiplayer games. I'm talking Catherine, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Under Night In-Birth II… etc. Niche games all of them.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 07:07 last edited byI just checked the games on ProtonDB. Two games are Platinum are one is silver/gold. Essentially very less tinkering.
Steam Deck compatibility is usually very conservative so even though it says incompatible, it will probably work. Nowadays, I just check if the game has some weird DRM or anticheat, otherwise it just works.
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This screenshot is also slightly misleading since the color scheme suggests that 5 out of 5 games run better on SteamOS then on Windows. But if you check the numbers it is only 4 out of 5 games.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 08:55 last edited byBy 1 fps. Could be the within the margin of error.
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What else would it be coming from on the exact same hardware?
wrote on 27 May 2025, 09:57 last edited byDrivers possibly? I don't mean it as a dig at SteamOS, I'm just curious where the discrepancy is from.
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Every time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 10:54 last edited byEven the steam deck is more upgradeable!
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That's still good isn't it? At worst you're getting on par performance, at best it's better
wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:30 last edited by plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.worksNot worth going through the trouble of installing this unless you only have games on Steam. The best thing about the Ally is the compatibility thanks to windows. If it offered better performance, then it would be worth dual booting it just to play steam games.
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Every time I look at Macs I just can't get over how ridiculous they are in terms of pricing. Combined with the inability to upgrade after the fact. Buying one would just doom me to buying another a few years down the line, much better to just never get stuck in the ecosystem in the first place.
wrote on 27 May 2025, 11:33 last edited byFind a better, or equally good computer than the Mac Mini M4 at the same price.