Literally every MMORPG targeted at an oldschool/hardcore/PvP oriented audience. Without fail the related comments and reviews will be littered by people angrily ranting on how these games are outdated and should change to be more casual

I wonder if a fan mod of DK64 where the bananas aren't colored would fix many of the problems. I feel like that one small change might fix a lot of complaints. I haven't played it though.

Yes, I meant Deadly Shadows. It was liked overall, and moreso as the years went on, but I remember plenty of people thinking it was disappointing at the time. Heck, there's one in this very thread. I haven't played the first two (and I know that I need to), but I know that it deviated from those quote a bit, and that seemed to be one of the main things people disliked about it.

To be fair to Ubisoft, the newest Prince of Persia game was a great metroidvania game.

To be fair-er to Ubisoft, they can go fuck themselves for closing down the studio that made said game only a few months later.

They can make good games. They just clearly would rather rehash the same tired formula that they've been running with for the past decade while unreasonably expecting to make more money each time.

I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

it was actually way ahead of its time, for a game. One small bug (the workaround for which was in the manual) ruined its reputation. But I genuinely think it was a good game.

Also written in 6 weeks by one guy. Freaking impressive

The parkour handled slightly differently, and that angered a lot of the fans from the first game. They also drastically changed the way the grapple worked. The combat was also slightly different, (critics would say simplified) so it tended to be more straightforward.

The first game had you doing a lot of jumping and diving just to survive, whereas the second game gave you some more survival options to avoid getting trapped by mobs. You could absolutely still do the jumping and diving if you wanted, but it wasn’t as critical anymore.

It has literally been about 20 years since I played. I can't say I really remember which part you're talking about. I just remember about halfway/three-quarter into the game things get fucking weird.

I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

Dead Space is one of those series where the first 2 games set the expectations UNBELIEVABLY high. So high, in fact, that the developers were actually terrified they couldn't live up to the legend, and were terrified they were gonna make a bad game that ruined the series. But they were gonna try their damndest.

And then EA executives came along, and they saw that """all the rage""" those days was in Co-Op action shooters a-la Resident Evil 5/6 and Army Of 2, or Gears of War, and they DEMANDED that Dead Space 3 be """more like that""", or else. So they did it, and were also forced to shove microtransactions into the game with crafting materials.

The end result? Dead Space 3 was an... alright 3rd-person action-horror co-op shooter. Not great, not terrible, but... alright. An above-average shade of mediocre, certainly worth playing on its own merits, both mechanically and plot-wise, but not much more than that. A perfectly OK game.

And an absolutely TERRIBLE Dead Space game. Previous installments sold millions on multiple platforms. DS3... didn't, and it ended up killing the studio.

I'm talking about games that you still like but you had no idea were criticized so much.

The perfect example for me is Sonic Unleashed.

I admit that the game has its bad things, but I would have never imagined that it was so hated at the time... Although, that could be extended to the entire Sonic franchise, since for many years I was not aware at all of that "Sonic was never good", "Sonic had a rough transition to 3D" nonsense.

what console version of Sonic unleashed did you play? i have heard that the wii version is probably the best because, despite the motion control gooberness, it cuts out maybe tons of annoying open world busywork and overly long levels due to the Wii not having enough storage space or whatever

What was the bug and workaround?

Usually, whenever people talk about A, you get a few of the following arguments:

• The story is bad/too childish
• Laws/Judges are overall a terrible mechanic
• Learning skills from equipment is bad
• SRPGs need permadeath
• Send missions are bad and just there to promote the game with having 300 missions

Of course, I disagree with all of these. Actually, these are some of my favorite things about this game.

when climbing out of the pit, it was very easy to immediately fall back down (due to the pixel-perfect collision detection).

And here is an excerpt from the manual: "Even experienced extraterrestrials sometimes have difficulty levitating out of wells. Start to levitate E.T. by first pressing the controller button and then pushing your Joystick forward. E.T.'s neck will stretch as he rises to the top of the well (see E.T. levitating in Figure 1). Just when he reaches the top of the well and the scene changes to the planet surface (see Figure 2), STOP! Do
not try to keep moving up. Instead, move your Joystick right, left, or to the bottom. Do not try to move up, or E.T. might fall back into the well."

I really enjoyed Mass Effect: Andromeda.

There were so many issues

• Final boss was lame and level leading to it was slow and tedious completely killing the momentum
• Camera system was wonky
• Rocket nozzle barely got any play
• Jet nozzle was too difficult to control to be useful outside of specific racing segments
• Pachinko machine physics were fucked
• The lily pad level was unfairly difficult
• There was no way to track which blue coins you found. Like even a grey coin marker for already collected coins would have been super helpful.
• The reward for getting blue coins was pathetic
• Yoshi was criminally underutilized. The whole juice mechanic was used like twice.

The whole thing just felt rushed. Like there was another third of the game that they didn’t get to make.

I loved FO3. And coming from Bethesda, I was expecting a sandbox.

Actually, do people hate FO3? I thought it was well liked, even amongst New Vegas fanatics.