"I live here now"
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I trust someone who was actually there more than a random user on the internet, yes. If you have a source that shows the opposite, feel free to share.
You're not going to find many books to the effect of, "see how hegemonic we aren't", so you mainly need to look at how the ussr treated republics within it, and especially preserved national minorities.
The USSR academy of sciences published works in many languages, same for the state publishing houses.
There are also some longer works on the languages of the USSR, because there was such a diversity of them and the constitution mandated their protection, but I haven't read them.
Compare with the US (wiped out every indigenous language), or the UK (tried to do the same for Irish and Welsh). It's always projection with these anticommunist westerner historians.
You can see the diversity here
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You're not going to find many books to the effect of, "see how hegemonic we aren't", so you mainly need to look at how the ussr treated republics within it, and especially preserved national minorities.
The USSR academy of sciences published works in many languages, same for the state publishing houses.
There are also some longer works on the languages of the USSR, because there was such a diversity of them and the constitution mandated their protection, but I haven't read them.
Compare with the US (wiped out every indigenous language), or the UK (tried to do the same for Irish and Welsh). It's always projection with these anticommunist westerner historians.
You can see the diversity here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Soviet_Union@dessalines @ChairmanMeow Why won't those ungrateful Ukrainians just surrender to Putin's kindly embrace?
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ITT: Terminally online Western .ml users being simperialist white knights again for their own favourite oligarchy.
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What should happen to the Israelis if palistine takes their land back?
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Exactly, the Nazis in the Ukrainian government are sending Ukranians into meat grinders for the profits of the U.S. empire
Aaaaand there it is.
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What should happen to the Israelis if palistine takes their land back?
wrote last edited by [email protected]The status quo is that Palestinians have no rights (legal, human, you name it), while the Israeli state protects the Israeli citizens. They don't get to vote, they don't get to travel, and they don't even get to keep their homes and lives in the face of the Gaza genocide and state-sponsored settler-colonialism.
Now, there is no reason that liberation for Palestinians must mean some sort of displacement or genocide for Israelis. The very fact that Zionists want you to believe that liberation is a zero-sum game is very telling.
One option would be a secular state that represents both Israelis and Palestinians, with appropriate measures to protect whichever ethnic group may be in the minority.
Another would be a recognized, democratic Palestinian state alongside Israel, in the borders of 1949 (or perhaps 1967), with a robust right to return. The illegal settler occupations erected since then would obviously need to be removed.
There are, of course, other avenues, some more utopic than others (as an anarchist, I favor a no state solution but I am pragmatic enough to recognize that this is wishful thinking for the near-future). But none of them, at least the serious ones, include dispelling all Israelis.
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It's the pen that writes history
Political power flows from it
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You're not going to find many books to the effect of, "see how hegemonic we aren't", so you mainly need to look at how the ussr treated republics within it, and especially preserved national minorities.
The USSR academy of sciences published works in many languages, same for the state publishing houses.
There are also some longer works on the languages of the USSR, because there was such a diversity of them and the constitution mandated their protection, but I haven't read them.
Compare with the US (wiped out every indigenous language), or the UK (tried to do the same for Irish and Welsh). It's always projection with these anticommunist westerner historians.
You can see the diversity here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Soviet_UnionPerhaps also read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification then, which is linked on that page. It explains how the Soviets:
- Forced other languages to use cyrillic if they didn't before, aligning the spelling of words with Russian
- Made Russian a mandatory subject in schools
- In mostly urban areas made sure education was primarily provided in Russian
- Made indigenous people learn Russian, but Russian immigrants to those areas did not learn the indigenous language there
These were all policies aimed at "unifying" the various cultures in the Soviet Union and strengthening control.
Early Soviet Union is as you described, promoting various cultures and languages. Lenin saw that as a way to gain favour with the local populations. Later leaders however went down a different path.
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What should happen to the Israelis if palistine takes their land back?
What happened to white settlers in South Africa? To this day they still hold most of the good lands and are richer.
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What should happen to the Israelis if palistine takes their land back?
wrote last edited by [email protected]there is no land back. people want a state with equal rights; that's it. i love how this is always a "concern": hey i know we genocided you, but what if you retaliate? we can't have that so the genocide most continue.
in reality we've seen what happens: what happened to the white south africans in south africa? what happened to the slave owners in the united states after emancipation? what happened to them after natives got some of their land and autonomy back?
nothing. prosperity, even. but at this point i don't give a shit if it's not nothing. israelis proved time and again—yes the population too, not just the government—that they're genocidal maniacs.
this is exactly the same as being concerned with what would happen to the nazis if germany gave rights back to the jews. imagine asking "what if the jews strike back? no the camps must stay".
just as it was right back then to emancipate the jewish people and other minorities no matter what would happen afterwards, so it is for palestinians now. luckily for the rapists and murderers of the world, the oppressed never turn out to be so genocidal once freed.
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This is loss, right
it's los
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I was pretty sure it was the Gaza situation.
¿Porque no los dos?
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ITT: Terminally online Western .ml users being simperialist white knights again for their own favourite oligarchy.
Found the salty Zionist
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It's Russians that live in the Donbass, not Poles.
There are a few Taiwanese in Taiwan apart from Chinese,
a few Australians in Australia apart from Anglos,
and a few Americans in the US apart from Anglos,
but there are no Ukrainians in the Ukraine.wrote last edited by [email protected]In Ukraine in general, ~68% speak Ukranian natively, ~17% are native Ukranian/Russian bilingual, ~14% are native Russian speakers.
In the Donbas, ~27% Ukrainian native speakers, ~29% bilinguals, ~42% Russian native speakers.
Going by nationality:
~73% of Ukranian nationals natively speak Ukranian.
~18% of Ukranian nationals are bilingual natives.
~9% of Ukranian nationals natively speak Russian.
~4% of Russian nationals natively speak Ukranian.
~14% of Russian nationals are bilingual.
~81% of Russian nationals natively speak Russian.
All these numbers are from 2017.
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I think it is safe to say that there are in fact many Ukranians in Ukraine, even many Ukranians in Donbas, at least prior to 2022... due to, you know, the ethnic cleansing undertaken by an occupying foreign national army.
My napkin math on those numbers works out to 53% Russian nationals vs 46% Ukranian nationals in Donbas in 2017.
Using a 53% Russian vs 46% Ukranian proportion to justify mass military force against the Ukranian population in Donbas is roughly the same logic that would conclude it is morally correct to invade Los Angeles and deport everyone who isn't fluent in English, which has similar proportions between English and Spanish.
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@dessalines @ChairmanMeow Why won't those ungrateful Ukrainians just surrender to Putin's kindly embrace?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Surrender? The people of donbass already voted to secede before the raf got involved directly. They don't want to be a part of Ukraine.
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Hey let's switch examples and see if your logic stands up. The name Los Angeles is Spanish. Because Spanish speakers have been there longer than English speakers. If the Spanish speakers don't like the president of the United States, does that mean it's perfectly acceptable for the Mexican government to provide Spanish speaking protesters in LA with artillery systems and missile batteries? Or is that fucking weird?
A downvote is not an answer btw.
Yes, and no it is not weird
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Aaaaand there it is.
wrote last edited by [email protected]They come here with their nonsnense equalizing a regular war to a genocide going on right now, the comic doesn't even make sense in the situation of Ukraine, it's about settler colonialism, something Russia doesn't do
Edit: this is like coming under a post about the holocaust and talking about "this is just like the white genocide in south africa"
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They come here with their nonsnense equalizing a regular war to a genocide going on right now, the comic doesn't even make sense in the situation of Ukraine, it's about settler colonialism, something Russia doesn't do
Edit: this is like coming under a post about the holocaust and talking about "this is just like the white genocide in south africa"
Yep, Russia stole third of Ukraine and tries to pretend it's a part of their country not because they're doing colonialism, but because... um... nothing I guess, it's not happening actually. All the Ukranians just deciding to die of natural causes there.
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They come here with their nonsnense equalizing a regular war to a genocide going on right now, the comic doesn't even make sense in the situation of Ukraine, it's about settler colonialism, something Russia doesn't do
Edit: this is like coming under a post about the holocaust and talking about "this is just like the white genocide in south africa"
wrote last edited by [email protected]How on Earth is it not settler colonialism when Russia engages in a prolonged campaign of trying to russify the Ukranian language, heavily propogandizing those in border regions to either get them to apply for, or either grant them Russian passports/citizenship, then they claim the rightful borders have moved, then invade and capture those border areas (and others), and then emgage in ethnic cleansing within those border areas?
Please, explain to me how that isn't settler colonialism, just with a few initial, semi-novel/semi-uncommon extra steps?
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Surrender? The people of donbass already voted to secede before the raf got involved directly. They don't want to be a part of Ukraine.
@mathemachristian Also: Putin was popularly elected.