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‘We tried and it didn’t work out’: CDPR co-founder says it shouldn’t stray from AAA open-world RPGs

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  • R [email protected]

    I tried playing Witcher 2 when it came out, but couldn't. It's so immersion breaking when some parts of the map are blocked by some gates or invisible walls. When Witcher 3 came out I was hesitant at first remembering my bad experience with 2, but I loved it so much.

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    How did you feel about Baldur's Gate 3? Because the structure of the maps in the first two Witcher games are what most of the genre is like.

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    • F [email protected]

      Funny because I stray away from anything that associates itself with AAA

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      You're missing out on some great experiences that indies simply can't produce in that case

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      • E [email protected]

        CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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        They are in almost all open world games.

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        • undercoverulrikhd@programming.devU [email protected]

          You're missing out on some great experiences that indies simply can't produce in that case

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          Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

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            Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

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            I rarely play games nowadays and even more rarely new games. Baldur's Gate 3 is the first one that comes to mind in recent years.

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            • E [email protected]

              CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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              The cyberpunk one was great, because it was so beautiful that merely driving in it was enjoyable

              TW3's open world was boring and terrible in every way

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                CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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                I'm just curious what you think is a good open world then

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                • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                  The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                  I liked that game. Then they decided to completely rework it. IMO for the worse. It went downhill from there.

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                  • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                    The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                    i wanted gwent on my phone, not on my PC. i forgot about it by the time it released for phones.

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                      Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

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                      God of War, Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Avowed

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                        I liked that game. Then they decided to completely rework it. IMO for the worse. It went downhill from there.

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                        Yeah I'm still not sure where they were going with reducing it to two lanes instead of 3.

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                          God of War, Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Avowed

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                          Oh yeah I played Elden Ring too. Avowed I tried but didn't like; the other two really aren't my type of game.

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                            They are in almost all open world games.

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                            Yeah, I see open world games as fancier tabletop games in most cases. Which isn't a bad thing by any means.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              They also created a standalone, story based Gwent card game that is pretty good, just in case you didn't know: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales

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                              This is an excellent game and a good soundtrack.

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                              • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                                The cyberpunk one was great, because it was so beautiful that merely driving in it was enjoyable

                                TW3's open world was boring and terrible in every way

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                                The DLC had good open worlds, but the main game just felt too dreary and brown.

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                                • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                  The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                                  It was still a really good game by the time they stopped working on it, and one of the least greedy CCG I've ever seen. Hearthstone was already starting to lose players, and they had a shot at being a replacement, even if the mechanics of the game were rather different.

                                  And then Marvel Rivals came out and the CCG landscape was just overpopulated.

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                                  • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                                    It was still a really good game by the time they stopped working on it, and one of the least greedy CCG I've ever seen. Hearthstone was already starting to lose players, and they had a shot at being a replacement, even if the mechanics of the game were rather different.

                                    And then Marvel Rivals came out and the CCG landscape was just overpopulated.

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                                    I think you mean Marvel Snap, but yes. Even the biggest pvp card games are struggling to retain players.

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                                    • E [email protected]

                                      Because you moved on to AAAA?

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                                      I'm holding out for AAAAA.

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