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‘We tried and it didn’t work out’: CDPR co-founder says it shouldn’t stray from AAA open-world RPGs

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  • S simple@lemm.ee
    1 Jun 2025, 14:16
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    emil_zatopek1982@lemmy.world
    wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 15:30 last edited by
    #10

    CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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    • D deflated0ne@lemmy.world
      1 Jun 2025, 14:31

      By the time I wanted to play that it was gone.

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      rollforinitiative@feddit.org
      wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 15:32 last edited by
      #11

      They also created a standalone, story based Gwent card game that is pretty good, just in case you didn't know: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales

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      • A ampersandrew@lemmy.world
        1 Jun 2025, 15:00

        Well, The Witcher 1 and 2 weren't open world, and those turned out pretty well, especially 2. There's something to be said about what a game from them might gain by doing more in a smaller world.

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        rusty@lemmy.ca
        wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 15:55 last edited by
        #12

        I tried playing Witcher 2 when it came out, but couldn't. It's so immersion breaking when some parts of the map are blocked by some gates or invisible walls. When Witcher 3 came out I was hesitant at first remembering my bad experience with 2, but I loved it so much.

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        • R rusty@lemmy.ca
          1 Jun 2025, 15:55

          I tried playing Witcher 2 when it came out, but couldn't. It's so immersion breaking when some parts of the map are blocked by some gates or invisible walls. When Witcher 3 came out I was hesitant at first remembering my bad experience with 2, but I loved it so much.

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          ampersandrew@lemmy.world
          wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 16:03 last edited by
          #13

          How did you feel about Baldur's Gate 3? Because the structure of the maps in the first two Witcher games are what most of the genre is like.

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          • F fiivemacs@lemmy.ca
            1 Jun 2025, 14:19

            Funny because I stray away from anything that associates itself with AAA

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            undercoverulrikhd@programming.dev
            wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 16:41 last edited by
            #14

            You're missing out on some great experiences that indies simply can't produce in that case

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            • E emil_zatopek1982@lemmy.world
              1 Jun 2025, 15:30

              CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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              zaphod@sopuli.xyz
              wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 16:52 last edited by
              #15

              They are in almost all open world games.

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              • U undercoverulrikhd@programming.dev
                1 Jun 2025, 16:41

                You're missing out on some great experiences that indies simply can't produce in that case

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                phen@lemmy.eco.br
                wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 18:51 last edited by
                #16

                Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

                U A 2 Replies Last reply 1 Jun 2025, 19:22
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                • P phen@lemmy.eco.br
                  1 Jun 2025, 18:51

                  Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

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                  undercoverulrikhd@programming.dev
                  wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 19:22 last edited by
                  #17

                  I rarely play games nowadays and even more rarely new games. Baldur's Gate 3 is the first one that comes to mind in recent years.

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                  • E emil_zatopek1982@lemmy.world
                    1 Jun 2025, 15:30

                    CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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                    buboscandiacus@mander.xyz
                    wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 19:46 last edited by buboscandiacus@mander.xyz 6 Jan 2025, 15:48
                    #18

                    The cyberpunk one was great, because it was so beautiful that merely driving in it was enjoyable

                    TW3's open world was boring and terrible in every way

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                    • E emil_zatopek1982@lemmy.world
                      1 Jun 2025, 15:30

                      CDPR's open worlds are cardboard props to the stories.

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                      markovs_gun@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 19:58 last edited by
                      #19

                      I'm just curious what you think is a good open world then

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                      • S simple@lemm.ee
                        1 Jun 2025, 14:17

                        The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                        jyrdano@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 20:06 last edited by
                        #20

                        I liked that game. Then they decided to completely rework it. IMO for the worse. It went downhill from there.

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                        • S simple@lemm.ee
                          1 Jun 2025, 14:17

                          The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                          acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 20:08 last edited by acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 Jan 2025, 16:10
                          #21

                          i wanted gwent on my phone, not on my PC. i forgot about it by the time it released for phones.

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                          • P phen@lemmy.eco.br
                            1 Jun 2025, 18:51

                            Any such experiences in the last few years? I think the last AAA games I've played where RDR2 and Spider Man.

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                            acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 20:22 last edited by
                            #22

                            God of War, Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Avowed

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                            • J jyrdano@lemmy.world
                              1 Jun 2025, 20:06

                              I liked that game. Then they decided to completely rework it. IMO for the worse. It went downhill from there.

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                              simple@lemm.ee
                              wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 20:25 last edited by
                              #23

                              Yeah I'm still not sure where they were going with reducing it to two lanes instead of 3.

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                              • A acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                                1 Jun 2025, 20:22

                                God of War, Elden Ring, Cyberpunk 2077, Avowed

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                                phen@lemmy.eco.br
                                wrote on 1 Jun 2025, 21:24 last edited by
                                #24

                                Oh yeah I played Elden Ring too. Avowed I tried but didn't like; the other two really aren't my type of game.

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                                • Z zaphod@sopuli.xyz
                                  1 Jun 2025, 16:52

                                  They are in almost all open world games.

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                                  leg@sh.itjust.works
                                  wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 00:30 last edited by
                                  #25

                                  Yeah, I see open world games as fancier tabletop games in most cases. Which isn't a bad thing by any means.

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                                  • R rollforinitiative@feddit.org
                                    1 Jun 2025, 15:32

                                    They also created a standalone, story based Gwent card game that is pretty good, just in case you didn't know: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales

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                                    unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works
                                    wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 04:13 last edited by
                                    #26

                                    This is an excellent game and a good soundtrack.

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                                    • B buboscandiacus@mander.xyz
                                      1 Jun 2025, 19:46

                                      The cyberpunk one was great, because it was so beautiful that merely driving in it was enjoyable

                                      TW3's open world was boring and terrible in every way

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                                      wahots@pawb.social
                                      wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 04:33 last edited by
                                      #27

                                      The DLC had good open worlds, but the main game just felt too dreary and brown.

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                                      • S simple@lemm.ee
                                        1 Jun 2025, 14:17

                                        The co-founder is definitely referring to the Gwent standalone game. I played it when open beta came out but it steadily went downhill from there until they eventually stopped working on it in 2023.

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                                        p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                        wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 13:42 last edited by
                                        #28

                                        It was still a really good game by the time they stopped working on it, and one of the least greedy CCG I've ever seen. Hearthstone was already starting to lose players, and they had a shot at being a replacement, even if the mechanics of the game were rather different.

                                        And then Marvel Rivals came out and the CCG landscape was just overpopulated.

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                                        • P p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                          2 Jun 2025, 13:42

                                          It was still a really good game by the time they stopped working on it, and one of the least greedy CCG I've ever seen. Hearthstone was already starting to lose players, and they had a shot at being a replacement, even if the mechanics of the game were rather different.

                                          And then Marvel Rivals came out and the CCG landscape was just overpopulated.

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                                          simple@lemm.ee
                                          wrote on 2 Jun 2025, 14:03 last edited by
                                          #29

                                          I think you mean Marvel Snap, but yes. Even the biggest pvp card games are struggling to retain players.

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