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PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google

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    Literally his income source

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    I understand why he doesn't leave youtube but why not reposts on alternatives for people who want to limit the use of youtube

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    • dietasse@feddit.orgD [email protected]

      I think there are tools that do that, yeah

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      Found one: https://codeberg.org/mister_monster/YouTube2Peertube

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      • engywuck@lemm.eeE [email protected]

        People listen to mister nobodies on the internet like they are prophets...

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        And who are you, exactly? I don't like pewdiepie, or at least I haven't since I was a literal teenager. He's a strange person with a strong ego at times, but I'm all for more mainstream exposure to de-Googling, linux, and self-hosting. Just take the win.

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        • Z [email protected]

          You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest "Google certified" option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I've been using my 6a since launch, so it's been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.

          You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.

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          i got 8a for 300 thats prob one of the best deals

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          • W [email protected]

            Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

            I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

            There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

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            Nebula is an option for some content creators but it is subscription based.

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            • A [email protected]

              Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

              Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

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              That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you

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              • D [email protected]

                And how do they get big? How do they get discovered? SEO ?

                They're getting huge because of the platform.

                I'm not saying google is not evil but it literally gives them their audience.

                I watch YT more than anything else by a mile, and if my top subscription moved to their website, and I had to jump through hoops to watch them on my TV device, by installing a browser or something I probably would stop watching them or watch them way less. Another TV friendly app sure that wouldn't be a problem, but I don't see many doing that.

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                Yeah, even an established creator is going to have a hard time moving their audience.

                If YouTube weren't a near monopoly it would be different. Then other companies would be competing for creators.

                Making it worse is section 1201 of the DMCA. It makes it a crime to circumvent access controls. In the past, Facebook was able to grow by providing tools to interface with MySpace. People didn't have to abandon their MySpace friends, they could communicate with them through Facebook, and Facebook could ensure that messages sent on its platform arrived to people still on MySpace. But, if you tried that today Facebook has access controls in place that make that a crime. The same applies to YouTube. Nobody can build a seamless "migrate away from YouTube" experience because YouTube will use the DMCA to block them.

                The governments of the world need to bring back antitrust with teeth and force interoperability.

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                • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

                  From everything I've heard, they're already profitable, and are explicitly choosing only to grow in a sustainable way, without taking on outside investment which could force them into enshittifying down the line. With a relative lack of need to show extreme growth, and a lack of reliance on outside factors like advertising (being subscription-based), the only major risk that I can see for them long-term is user churn. Which is definitely a risk, but with the ever-creeping growth of the range of content they have and (at least for now) an attitude of being customer-friendly, churn seems a relatively low risk.

                  As far as I can see, at worst, the platform dies if the YouTube channels of the people on the platform die because of the YouTube algorithm, and they get bad churn (with fewer new subscribers because of the aforementioned dead YouTube channels at the top of the funnel), and they don't get new more successful channels on before that happens. A scenario that's far from unlikely, but which I would describe as "catastrophic, whether or not Nebula exists today", so its existence for now as a hedge against more likely bad scenarios is still worthwhile.

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                  That's super cool. I'd love to know more about Nebula's business practices, do you know where I could find that information? I've seen some interviews with their leadership that didn't go into anywhere near the depth that I'd like and that's about it

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                    I think it's ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.

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                    • leadore@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                      I think it's ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.

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                      Ditch Google

                      Step 1: Send them money

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                      • D [email protected]

                        Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.

                        Edit: I noticed it's not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.

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                        There is the expected amount of negativity in the comments, but also more positivity than I expected.

                        I watched the video. I am not really a fan of the style, I don't agree with all of the content. But damn, a big influencer is using his reach to talk about retaking privacy and control in your online life. It can be such a difficult subject to pitch without sounding crazy. I think the video existing is great and pushes general awareness in the right direction.

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                          That's super cool. I'd love to know more about Nebula's business practices, do you know where I could find that information? I've seen some interviews with their leadership that didn't go into anywhere near the depth that I'd like and that's about it

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                          Most of this comment was my own speculation based on the details they've shared publicly. The details I know of publicly are:

                          • The seem to be profitable. Or at least in a relatively sustainable place; they talk about profit a lot, but usually in terms of how the "profit" is split between creators. I forget, maybe the Wendover "history of Nebula" video from a while back talked more specifically about profitability?
                          • They're choosing not to take outside investment. This is something the CEO, Dave Wiskus, talked about particularly with respect to the Lifetime subscriptions, describing those as their option for building up the sort of large amounts of cash that they might otherwise have gone to outside investment for, in order to fund bigger projects
                          • The fact that they are, quite visibly, expanding their range of content

                          The rest was me speculating about how the business model would seem to work based on those factors plus my limited, layperson's, understanding of their industry.

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                            Extrapolate from the context. I'm tired of explaining obvious things to unreceptive people.

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                            I don't think anyone has been unreceptive here man. I've been been completely cool with what all you've said so far and even thanked you for it and haven't countered anything. Your day going ok?

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                              You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest "Google certified" option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I've been using my 6a since launch, so it's been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.

                              You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.

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                              When I can afford $250 I'll keep it in mind. 🙂

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                              • m137@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                                Is it though? I never paid any attention to him, so I only know that one time he made some kids make a sign with heil Hitler or something like that (which from what I've read was just a joke in bad taste, he isn't a nazi or major racist). Otherwise, I haven't heard anything bad about him, he was just never someone I cared to know more about and watch, seemed to be mostly for kids. Please, correct anything I've said if I'm wrong.

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                                He has had some serious run ins with controversy like the bridge incident and a shooter co-opting the T-Series fake beef but beyond that it's basically people reacting seriously to him aping Filthy Frank, in my opinion I think he's made good enough on not shooting himself in the foot now, mostly probably cuz he's a Dad now and trying to ape Filthy Frank is too much effort.

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                                • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                  He'll be crawling around xmpp chatrooms talking about anarchists soon.

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                                  He's gonna discover Matrix and donate a mill cuz of the slow load times lmao

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                                  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                                    Even just mirroring.

                                    Is there a tool already that makes it easy to upload to both? Idk, I haven't uploaded a video since like the 10s

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                                    I think there's an option to sync PeerTube channels with YouTube channels in the backend.

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                                      Love this, although I think he will realise pretty quickly that hosting on his >!Steam deck!< might have some drawback haha (I'm thinking storage here)

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                                      You can easily expand storage on it, whether it's external or internal or even fast SD card.

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                                        If you don't let people make mistakes, change, and grow, you're living a petty, sad life.

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                                        If he's a Nazi, I'm a trans queer Nazi.

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                                        • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

                                          started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd's gonna start hrt lol

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                                          I was just thinking about this: more evidence of the Minecraft to Linux self hosting pipeline.

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