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PewDiePie: I'm DONE with Google

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      I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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        Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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          Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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          If it stays up, it's certainly going to be interesting seeing the difference in view counts between it and his other videos.

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            i don't want to watch pewdiepie, can someone explain what's his beef here

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              Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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              Upload it to Framatube and other YouTube Alternatives

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                This wound up being a much better watch than I thought.

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                  Well, there is Nebula, which is kinda like that. But most of them also put their videos on YouTube, using Nebula as the premium ad-free option with a little bonus content.

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                    I'm loving Pewdie's redemption arc

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                      And how do they get big? How do they get discovered? SEO ?

                      They're getting huge because of the platform.

                      I'm not saying google is not evil but it literally gives them their audience.

                      I watch YT more than anything else by a mile, and if my top subscription moved to their website, and I had to jump through hoops to watch them on my TV device, by installing a browser or something I probably would stop watching them or watch them way less. Another TV friendly app sure that wouldn't be a problem, but I don't see many doing that.

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                        And how do they get big? How do they get discovered? SEO ?

                        They're getting huge because of the platform.

                        I'm not saying google is not evil but it literally gives them their audience.

                        I watch YT more than anything else by a mile, and if my top subscription moved to their website, and I had to jump through hoops to watch them on my TV device, by installing a browser or something I probably would stop watching them or watch them way less. Another TV friendly app sure that wouldn't be a problem, but I don't see many doing that.

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                        I'm talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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                          Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

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                          I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

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                            I'm talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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                            Still think building their own site with apps I can throw on my devices is pretty involved.

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                              I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don't ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don't need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

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                              Streaming video is expensive. LTT did it with Floatplane, even going so far as to develop their own backend. Watcher and some other YouTubers did it with Vimeo as their backend, but Vimeo still takes a large cut.

                              At the end of the day, people are doing this, but YouTube still offers a compelling value compared to other platforms. It’s hard to beat their scale, sophistication, and the discoverability of their platform.

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                                i don't want to watch pewdiepie, can someone explain what's his beef here

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                                Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames... Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone's privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.

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                                  I'm talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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                                  YouTube still offers them a service in directing them new viewers. The big creators all lose viewers but YouTube funnels replacement views faster than they lose. They could host their own videos but they are gonna see very little growth without Google either in search or with YouTube as they start to lose the base that followed them.

                                  They also won’t be able to negotiate as good as rates for pre-rolls or in video sponsorships as if they were on YouTube.

                                  The only real alternative would be to band together like the creators that are a part of nebula are doing. Hosting on peertube really isn’t an option unless you are independently supported and you are doing it as a passion project and don’t care about audience growth or retention.

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                                    That's very cool indeed – although I dread the moment he starts talking to his followers about Lemmy.

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                                      I'm talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

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                                      The lift of running your own platform is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to creating your own video hosting platform.

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                                        Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames... Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone's privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.

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                                        Guy's an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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                                          That's very cool indeed – although I dread the moment he starts talking to his followers about Lemmy.

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                                          It would be a larger influx of bullshit than even Reddit was able to pull off.

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