Hosting virtualbox for my students
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The only reason I would virtualize would be to allow multiple users to have access to their own workspaces.
It would seem safer to have them sandboxed within a virtual workspace than to give them all user accounts synchronously on a desktop, if that's even possible.
The apps you list need decent gpu and gpu doesn’t virtualize well. You also don’t run into licensing issues with Windows.
You can create individual accounts on the desktops so they get their own workspace.
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The apps you list need decent gpu and gpu doesn’t virtualize well. You also don’t run into licensing issues with Windows.
You can create individual accounts on the desktops so they get their own workspace.
The apps you list need decent gpu and gpu doesn’t virtualize well.
That's not really true any more. To actually get it working, especially sharing a GPU between multiple VMs, is finicky, especially if you're not using the very narrow supported configuration and expensive enterprise hypervisor features. But it is possible, and you can find plenty of articles from people who have gotten it working.
But I still wouldn't recommend it. I'd give one whole GPU to one VM with PCI passthrough, and let multiple users remote in. Hopefully the apps support that.
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Please ask for your department's help before setting up rogue hypervisors on your school's network. Depending on network security, you might not get far anyway.
This does sound like it could be a liability issue if not done correctly
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The apps you list need decent gpu and gpu doesn’t virtualize well.
That's not really true any more. To actually get it working, especially sharing a GPU between multiple VMs, is finicky, especially if you're not using the very narrow supported configuration and expensive enterprise hypervisor features. But it is possible, and you can find plenty of articles from people who have gotten it working.
But I still wouldn't recommend it. I'd give one whole GPU to one VM with PCI passthrough, and let multiple users remote in. Hopefully the apps support that.
But I still wouldn't recommend it. I'd give one whole GPU to one VM with PCI passthrough, and let multiple users remote in.
Which is why I’ve made the recommendation I did. Skip virtualization and go straight to remote access.
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If only! They cannot be reimaged at all. They cannot even add extensions to Chrome. They are LOCKED down.
Linux from chromebook is just a configuration you enable from the settings menu. If offers you a shell which is similar to a Ubuntu and you can install standard Linux software using the "apt install" command. Said so, if they cannot even install chrome extensions this is likely disabled too.
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I am looking for a solution for my students who all have Chromebooks (which are locked down).
Their opportunities will be greatly expanded if they had access to Windows-based software (Blender, Unreal Engine, 3D slicing software, etc.,).
I have access to a couple desktop machines that I could host virtual boxes on if there was some way for them to remote into them through a web browser.
Is that something that is possible, and where would I get the information to get started hosting something like that?
If not, are there any alternative solutions that do not require a paid subscription?
If you can get It’s blessing I’d suggest something like KASM workspaces or WebTops, basically a Linux desktop in the browser.
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But I still wouldn't recommend it. I'd give one whole GPU to one VM with PCI passthrough, and let multiple users remote in.
Which is why I’ve made the recommendation I did. Skip virtualization and go straight to remote access.
Yeah, that would be my recommendation too. Anything else will produce a worse experience (laggy and slow) and more complexity to get setup/maintain.
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I am looking for a solution for my students who all have Chromebooks (which are locked down).
Their opportunities will be greatly expanded if they had access to Windows-based software (Blender, Unreal Engine, 3D slicing software, etc.,).
I have access to a couple desktop machines that I could host virtual boxes on if there was some way for them to remote into them through a web browser.
Is that something that is possible, and where would I get the information to get started hosting something like that?
If not, are there any alternative solutions that do not require a paid subscription?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I would recommend that you bring in someone with experience instead of trying to wing it. It sounds like you are trying to bypass your IT department which is never a good idea. Talk to the people who control the Chromebooks.
What you are looking for is virtual desktop. It will cost money but it is worth it in the end. I would highly recommend that you take a look at Azure virtual desktop or related services. It is all cloud based and it is likely what you are after.
If
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Explore kasm, it is fucking amazing Kasm
I would go for something Cloud based like Azure virtual desktop or similar. I don't think Kasm has a cloud option.
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I'm in a rural area without much funding. They would likely take issue with me adding complexity to their already overworked schedule.
Anyway, I'd rather ask forgiveness than for permission in most instances like these.
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's a very bad idea
It will almost certainly blow up in your face and cost more money in the long run. (Time is money)
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If only! They cannot be reimaged at all. They cannot even add extensions to Chrome. They are LOCKED down.
By whom?
Please talk to your IT department. If nothing else you could get the green light for something else.
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Does it have access to boot menu? If so, change boot order so it goes to usb first. You will then only need to create a bootable usb stick with Linux on it
I'm sure that won't cause problems...
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What you're looking for is Promox.
I don't think Proxmox can do VDI
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I don't think Proxmox can do VDI
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Neat project but not enterprise grade
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Neat project but not enterprise grade
I don't think a high school teacher trying to setup something for a couple classes on some old hand me down desktop requires enterprise grade anything, so we're good!
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I would go for something Cloud based like Azure virtual desktop or similar. I don't think Kasm has a cloud option.
Why?
There are not benefits in the cloud solution over the hosted server. It could even be more expensive on the long run...
And yes, kasm has a cloud solution in its web page
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Why?
There are not benefits in the cloud solution over the hosted server. It could even be more expensive on the long run...
And yes, kasm has a cloud solution in its web page
wrote last edited by [email protected]The benefit is that it way easier to manage since you don't have to worry about physical hardware.
I get that it could easily be to expensive but it might not be bad with educational discounts.
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I am looking for a solution for my students who all have Chromebooks (which are locked down).
Their opportunities will be greatly expanded if they had access to Windows-based software (Blender, Unreal Engine, 3D slicing software, etc.,).
I have access to a couple desktop machines that I could host virtual boxes on if there was some way for them to remote into them through a web browser.
Is that something that is possible, and where would I get the information to get started hosting something like that?
If not, are there any alternative solutions that do not require a paid subscription?
"Remote desktop" from google works good for what you're trying to do I think
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"Remote desktop" from google works good for what you're trying to do I think
I thought so too, but the students are locked out altering any software on their Chromebooks
