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  • V [email protected]

    I'm in a rural area without much funding. They would likely take issue with me adding complexity to their already overworked schedule.

    Anyway, I'd rather ask forgiveness than for permission in most instances like these.

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    That's a very bad idea

    It will almost certainly blow up in your face and cost more money in the long run. (Time is money)

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    • V [email protected]

      If only! They cannot be reimaged at all. They cannot even add extensions to Chrome. They are LOCKED down.

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      By whom?

      Please talk to your IT department. If nothing else you could get the green light for something else.

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      • P [email protected]

        Does it have access to boot menu? If so, change boot order so it goes to usb first. You will then only need to create a bootable usb stick with Linux on it

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        I'm sure that won't cause problems...

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        • W [email protected]

          What you're looking for is Promox.

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          I don't think Proxmox can do VDI

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            I don't think Proxmox can do VDI

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            https://github.com/joshpatten/PVE-VDIClient

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              https://github.com/joshpatten/PVE-VDIClient

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              Neat project but not enterprise grade

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              • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                Neat project but not enterprise grade

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                I don't think a high school teacher trying to setup something for a couple classes on some old hand me down desktop requires enterprise grade anything, so we're good!

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                • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                  I would go for something Cloud based like Azure virtual desktop or similar. I don't think Kasm has a cloud option.

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                  Why?

                  There are not benefits in the cloud solution over the hosted server. It could even be more expensive on the long run...

                  And yes, kasm has a cloud solution in its web page

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                    Why?

                    There are not benefits in the cloud solution over the hosted server. It could even be more expensive on the long run...

                    And yes, kasm has a cloud solution in its web page

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                    The benefit is that it way easier to manage since you don't have to worry about physical hardware.

                    I get that it could easily be to expensive but it might not be bad with educational discounts.

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                      I am looking for a solution for my students who all have Chromebooks (which are locked down).

                      Their opportunities will be greatly expanded if they had access to Windows-based software (Blender, Unreal Engine, 3D slicing software, etc.,).

                      I have access to a couple desktop machines that I could host virtual boxes on if there was some way for them to remote into them through a web browser.

                      Is that something that is possible, and where would I get the information to get started hosting something like that?

                      If not, are there any alternative solutions that do not require a paid subscription?

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                      "Remote desktop" from google works good for what you're trying to do I think

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                        "Remote desktop" from google works good for what you're trying to do I think

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                        I thought so too, but the students are locked out altering any software on their Chromebooks

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                        • V [email protected]

                          I thought so too, but the students are locked out altering any software on their Chromebooks

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                          You only need to install the "host" software on the machine you're going to share, the chromebooks only need to visit remotedesktop.google.com

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                            The benefit is that it way easier to manage since you don't have to worry about physical hardware.

                            I get that it could easily be to expensive but it might not be bad with educational discounts.

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                            Got it.

                            But looking that the question has been posted in a selfhosted thread I don't see the recomendation of the cloud solution 🙂

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                            • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                              I would recommend that you bring in someone with experience instead of trying to wing it. It sounds like you are trying to bypass your IT department which is never a good idea. Talk to the people who control the Chromebooks.

                              What you are looking for is virtual desktop. It will cost money but it is worth it in the end. I would highly recommend that you take a look at Azure virtual desktop or related services. It is all cloud based and it is likely what you are after.

                              If

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                              Sounds like OP is a teacher at a school. Schools very seldom have It departments, even in this day and age…

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                              • V [email protected]

                                I'm vegan, so I've had it before...Oh, the software! Looks exactly like what I need (even though it might be out of my league to set up)

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                                It'll all be alien to you, But a couple of lines later and it will all just work. Guak is your best option, It supports everything

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                                • J [email protected]

                                  You only need to install the "host" software on the machine you're going to share, the chromebooks only need to visit remotedesktop.google.com

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                                  Just tried, and their Google accounts do not have access to Chrome Remote Desktop unfortunately

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    Got it.

                                    But looking that the question has been posted in a selfhosted thread I don't see the recomendation of the cloud solution 🙂

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                                    This is honestly out of the scope of this community

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                                    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                                      This is honestly out of the scope of this community

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                                      Honestly I totally disagree, this community is about avoiding SaaS and controlling the important part of the stack to keep your own data under control.

                                      If the service you need is just a provider of vm for your own business, is not a contradiction and it is still selfhosted as long as you control it.

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