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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • N nuko147@lemm.ee
    22 May 2025, 11:40

    Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

    Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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    trainguyrom@reddthat.com
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:07 last edited by
    #212

    Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

    It's canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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    • C cmhe@lemmy.world
      22 May 2025, 19:19

      Unless you are also complaining about it when white male characters are also surface-level, 2-D, copy-and-paste characters then all you are saying is "Only white male characters are allowed to be simple or a stereotype/trope."

      What? Where am I saying that?

      Yes I would complain about all kind of stereotypes. Even the "white muscular tough guy" could be considered sexual objectification. IMO CoD is sometimes pretty gay coded.

      Lets be honest, not every game needs a complex and well written character, and that is fine. If they choose to go that route it doesn't matter what race, religion, or gender the character is in the first place. So it doesn't matter if they are a white male, a latina woman, or a black non-binary person.

      I wasn't saying that. You can have games without a single character. Or where the character doesn't really matter, because it just an empty shell you are driving around and not more.

      But IMO I mostly play story driven RPGs, where you are someone, and where you want the environment to react to you. It would be awesome if when you run around with colorful hair or tattoos, it would slightly change the disposition of the NPCs or cause them to comment on your appearance. Don't let this stuff be just cosmetics, it should be more meaningful, and embedded into the game world.

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      comrade_spood@slrpnk.net
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:20 last edited by
      #213

      Then yeah I get that. Your initial argument without the context you just added was just reminiscent of bigoted arguments. It was wrong of me to assume

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      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
        21 May 2025, 23:25
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        theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:20 last edited by
        #214

        Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don't think you deserve to enjoy things

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        • S saharamaleikuhm@feddit.org
          22 May 2025, 19:02

          Quite the opposite for me. Having only random ass characters in the story would kill all my hype. Also I wished for Ciri as MC in the next game ever since I player W3, so for 10 years now.

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          feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:27 last edited by feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
          #215

          My dream witcher game is set like 150 years in the future (early industrialized time period of the witcher universe.) And there could be tension as guns are invented and witchers aren't needed as much. How great would that be?

          Wanted to mention - The Season of Storms Witcher book has a short flash forward to around 150 years in the future, and they're starting to burn fossil fuels. That's where I got the 150 years.

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          • B boonhet@lemm.ee
            22 May 2025, 22:49

            I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

            Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

            Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

            Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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            el_abuelo@programming.dev
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:37 last edited by
            #216

            Tomb Raider. That's all I'm gonna say.

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            • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca
              22 May 2025, 21:49

              she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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              notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world
              wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:00 last edited by
              #217

              “Shut up, Ciri.” - Captain Picard

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              • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                21 May 2025, 23:25
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                aux@feddit.uk
                wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:28 last edited by
                #218

                Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

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                • V vga@sopuli.xyz
                  22 May 2025, 15:39

                  I didn't like Witcher 3. I played the main storyline to Skellige and after a while of adventuring there, I just could not bring myself to continue the game.

                  I've read all the books, perhaps that has something to do with it.

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                  phar@lemmy.ml
                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:29 last edited by
                  #219

                  As far as fantasy goes, are the books good?

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                  • B bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
                    22 May 2025, 22:59

                    I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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                    aux@feddit.uk
                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:30 last edited by
                    #220

                    I had my 1080 until last month. Enjoying 5080 now!

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                    • S samus12345@lemm.ee
                      22 May 2025, 16:13

                      If a game is deemed "woke" by right-wing shitheads, that's like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it's not because of being inclusive and diverse.

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                      aux@feddit.uk
                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:31 last edited by
                      #221

                      It's a lot easier - if Americans don't like what Europeans are doing, then it's a great thing they're doing!

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                      • B boonhet@lemm.ee
                        22 May 2025, 22:49

                        I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                        Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                        Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                        Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                        faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
                        wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:34 last edited by
                        #222

                        I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                        • J joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf
                          22 May 2025, 08:35

                          It's about time women got more accurate representation in games. How many games have you play as a man compared to playing as a woman? Technically it should be 50/50 to more accurately represent the real world.

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                          righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
                          wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:51 last edited by
                          #223

                          Video games are not the real world. They do not have to follow the rules of the real world. Even if parts or all of the game model the real world, video games are artwork, and artwork invents its own rules. Trying to enforce rules onto art has not worked well in the past, and will likely not work well in the future either.

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                          • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
                            23 May 2025, 00:34

                            I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                            boonhet@lemm.ee
                            wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:52 last edited by
                            #224

                            Yeah. I haven't played 1 much beyond the first 10 minutes, was too janky. 2 was mostly focused on the war, with Geralt being the most important character IMO. In 3 he was no longer THE most important character, but he was a close second - out of a large cast of supporting characters that aided them on the way.

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                            • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
                              22 May 2025, 11:41

                              Unpopular opinion:

                              Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

                              So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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                              righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
                              wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:53 last edited by
                              #225

                              Nah, if the next Witcher MC was Dandelion, that would absolutely be the best one.

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                                21 May 2025, 23:25
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                                apeman42@lemmy.world
                                wrote on 23 May 2025, 01:02 last edited by
                                #226

                                Not gonna lie, I was hoping they'd use some Law of Surprise stuff to give Geralt a new ward and let you create your own Witcher. But, if instead I get to do teleport strike bullshit with Ciri's powers, I'll be content.

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                                  21 May 2025, 23:25
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                                  auli@lemmy.ca
                                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 01:05 last edited by
                                  #227

                                  What does reading the books have to do with the game. The books take place before the game series. Or am I mistaken.

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                                  • T theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world
                                    22 May 2025, 23:20

                                    Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don't think you deserve to enjoy things

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                                    whatstheholdup@lemmy.ml
                                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 03:00 last edited by
                                    #228

                                    Imo there are two types of "wokeness".

                                    There is a diverse inclusive story by someone with an underrepresented experience who partially lived that story and has a unique perspective and ideas.

                                    And then there is a "diverse" story constructed by an all white male board of execitives who think "wokeness" is trendy.

                                    Movies like I Saw The TV Glow, Parasite, Sinners, etc are fantastic "woke" stories coming from the former group.

                                    The latter group comes up with stories like "Ghostbusters but all women" or "Oceans 11 but all women" which I think should rightly be criticized.

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                                    • M madjo@feddit.nl
                                      22 May 2025, 22:31

                                      The reactionary women-hating alt-right gamer-gate neo-nazi losers should just be ignored at this point.

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                                      morningthunder@lemm.ee
                                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 04:06 last edited by
                                      #229

                                      To be fair, this post is the first I’ve heard of people upset about it

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                                      • A auli@lemmy.ca
                                        23 May 2025, 01:05

                                        What does reading the books have to do with the game. The books take place before the game series. Or am I mistaken.

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                                        undercoverulrikhd@programming.dev
                                        wrote on 23 May 2025, 04:12 last edited by
                                        #230

                                        Yeah, Geralt and Yen "dies" and may or may not be saved by Ciri's power at the end of the series. Ciri is the pivotal character in the story, Geralt is really just there trying to find her.

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                                        • S sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
                                          22 May 2025, 15:38

                                          Eh, I didn't like Skyrim as much as Morrowind, so I think there's some room for ES6 to improve on ES5.

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                                          andros_rex@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 23 May 2025, 04:20 last edited by
                                          #231

                                          Oblivion and Skyrim were both massive disappointments to me.

                                          If ES 6 comes out, it’ll have maybe three skills - magic/combat/sneak. Any interesting/complicated lore will be retconned and shoved aside. (Why wasn’t Cyrodil a jungle? Where are my river drakes? What happened to Sutch? Where is my Colovian armor set?)

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