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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • C courval@lemmy.world
    22 May 2025, 14:57

    People are complaining of having to stare at a female's body while playing? They prefer looking at at male's butt? That's soooo gay!

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    hyphlosion@lemm.ee
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:28 last edited by hyphlosion@lemm.ee
    #193

    I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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    • B bravo@eviltoast.org
      22 May 2025, 21:19

      Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture which says that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

      Poe's law is based on a comment written by Nathan Poe in 2005 on christianforums.com, an Internet forum on Christianity. The message was posted during a debate on creationism, where a previous poster had remarked to another user: "Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious".[4]

      The reply by Nathan Poe read:[1]

      Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.

      The original statement of Poe's law referred specifically to creationism, but it has since been generalized to apply to any kind of fundamentalism or extremism.[3]

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      hyphlosion@lemm.ee
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:30 last edited by
      #194

      Since when is Poe making laws? I thought he’s an X-Wing pilot.

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      • S samus12345@lemm.ee
        22 May 2025, 16:13

        If a game is deemed "woke" by right-wing shitheads, that's like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it's not because of being inclusive and diverse.

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        rose@lemmy.zip
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:30 last edited by
        #195

        If it does "flop", they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

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        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
          21 May 2025, 23:25
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          bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:31 last edited by
          #196

          You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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          • T trainguyrom@reddthat.com
            22 May 2025, 21:22

            Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts

            So I recently devoured the book series and can clarify, she was first trained as a Witcher, then as a sourceress by Yennefer, but after she was teleported into the middle of the desert and tried to use fire as a source of power out of desperation, she gave up all magical abilities as the fire was trying to consumer her. So shes a brilliant swordswoman, has partial Witcher mutation (some of the mutations come from the secret Witcher diet which she was fed at Ker Moren while being trained) and depending on when in the timeline the game takes place she would have incredible reflexes and some interdimensional travel capabilities.

            There's also some really interesting opportunities for storytelling given how Ciri's background is just soaked in trauma. On that note, I am also curious if they intend to play down the salaciousness for this entry or not. In the books Ciri was definitely curious (and heavily implied to be bi) but remained a virgin, and by the end of the series she was still a minor by modern standards. I want to say she was 16 or so at the end of the last book.

            I'm super excited to see where this game goes, because if its worthy of being released after the masterpiece that was The Witcher 3, it's going to be brilliant

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            uid0gid0@lemmy.world
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:34 last edited by
            #197

            Don't forget the carnivorous unicorns

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            • F floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              22 May 2025, 08:28

              Don't let the alt-right dictate what "woke" means

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              rose@lemmy.zip
              wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:34 last edited by
              #198

              Let Doechii do it for you 😛

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              • J jtskywalker@lemm.ee
                22 May 2025, 17:35

                Morrowind is the best. Oblivion remaster is better than skyrim (in my Morrowboomer opinion) and that was just refreshing a 20 year old game. I feel like there is a lot of hype for TES6 that it may not live up to, but surpassing skyrim is definitely doable.

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                trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:35 last edited by
                #199

                Honestly TES6 has one thing going for it and that's that Skyrim is over a decade old now so matching the scale and scope of Skyrim is much more achievable.

                In my opinion when a sequel falls flat or is outshined by an earlier entry in the series, it's usually because the studio messed with the formula for the gameplay, not because of a change in characters

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                • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                  21 May 2025, 23:25
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                  courval@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:36 last edited by
                  #200

                  Thanks, I find the winky a much better option than the cold monotonous /s

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                  • R rose@lemmy.zip
                    22 May 2025, 21:30

                    If it does "flop", they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

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                    samus12345@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:44 last edited by
                    #201

                    Yup, with movies and games alike if it's "woke" and flops they always say that's why, when the truth is it just sucked.

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                    • M mildlyusedbrain@lemmy.world
                      22 May 2025, 20:45

                      I get this somewhat but including ciri? I feel like there was none of that with her character. What about her struck you as that?

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                      zebidiah@lemmy.ca
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:49 last edited by
                      #202

                      she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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                      • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca
                        22 May 2025, 20:04

                        hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

                        they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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                        kellamity@sh.itjust.works
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:59 last edited by
                        #203

                        And if I'm honest the books are similar. I like them, but all the women are super sexy super hot and they exist for Geralt to have sex with

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                          21 May 2025, 23:25
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                          madjo@feddit.nl
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:31 last edited by
                          #204

                          The reactionary women-hating alt-right gamer-gate neo-nazi losers should just be ignored at this point.

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                          • H hyphlosion@lemm.ee
                            22 May 2025, 21:28

                            I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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                            madjo@feddit.nl
                            wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:33 last edited by
                            #205

                            I usually play as a female character in games too. I prefer to look at pretty things.

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                              nigelfrobisher@aussie.zone
                              wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:48 last edited by
                              #206

                              They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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                                21 May 2025, 23:25
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                                boonhet@lemm.ee
                                wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:49 last edited by boonhet@lemm.ee
                                #207

                                I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                                Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                                Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                                Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                                • B bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
                                  22 May 2025, 21:31

                                  You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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                                  boonhet@lemm.ee
                                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:56 last edited by
                                  #208

                                  You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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                                  • B boonhet@lemm.ee
                                    22 May 2025, 22:56

                                    You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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                                    bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:59 last edited by
                                    #209

                                    I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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                                    • V vane@lemmy.world
                                      22 May 2025, 11:59

                                      Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can't be a witcher it's because they claim it's woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it's political. I clearly state it's not. I don't want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That's all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it's woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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                                      trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:03 last edited by
                                      #210

                                      It's a game series (and later media series) literally based on a series of books. The short stories tell Garalt's story, but the longform books are far more about Ciri than they are Geralt. Go read them they're brilliant books but more important to the point you'll understand why Ciri is so important to the story that's being told

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                                      • M medsal15@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                        22 May 2025, 03:35

                                        An image with the words "Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily", each on its own line. "WOKE" can be read vertically with the first letters of each word

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                                        adambomb@lemmy.sdf.org
                                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:05 last edited by
                                        #211

                                        Perfection

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                                        • N nuko147@lemm.ee
                                          22 May 2025, 11:40

                                          Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

                                          Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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                                          trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:07 last edited by
                                          #212

                                          Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

                                          It's canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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