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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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    They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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      I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

      Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

      Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

      Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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        You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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        You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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          You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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          I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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            Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can't be a witcher it's because they claim it's woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it's political. I clearly state it's not. I don't want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That's all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it's woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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            It's a game series (and later media series) literally based on a series of books. The short stories tell Garalt's story, but the longform books are far more about Ciri than they are Geralt. Go read them they're brilliant books but more important to the point you'll understand why Ciri is so important to the story that's being told

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              An image with the words "Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily", each on its own line. "WOKE" can be read vertically with the first letters of each word

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              Perfection

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              • nuko147@lemm.eeN [email protected]

                Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

                Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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                Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

                It's canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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                  Unless you are also complaining about it when white male characters are also surface-level, 2-D, copy-and-paste characters then all you are saying is "Only white male characters are allowed to be simple or a stereotype/trope."

                  What? Where am I saying that?

                  Yes I would complain about all kind of stereotypes. Even the "white muscular tough guy" could be considered sexual objectification. IMO CoD is sometimes pretty gay coded.

                  Lets be honest, not every game needs a complex and well written character, and that is fine. If they choose to go that route it doesn't matter what race, religion, or gender the character is in the first place. So it doesn't matter if they are a white male, a latina woman, or a black non-binary person.

                  I wasn't saying that. You can have games without a single character. Or where the character doesn't really matter, because it just an empty shell you are driving around and not more.

                  But IMO I mostly play story driven RPGs, where you are someone, and where you want the environment to react to you. It would be awesome if when you run around with colorful hair or tattoos, it would slightly change the disposition of the NPCs or cause them to comment on your appearance. Don't let this stuff be just cosmetics, it should be more meaningful, and embedded into the game world.

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                  Then yeah I get that. Your initial argument without the context you just added was just reminiscent of bigoted arguments. It was wrong of me to assume

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                    Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don't think you deserve to enjoy things

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                      Quite the opposite for me. Having only random ass characters in the story would kill all my hype. Also I wished for Ciri as MC in the next game ever since I player W3, so for 10 years now.

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                      My dream witcher game is set like 150 years in the future (early industrialized time period of the witcher universe.) And there could be tension as guns are invented and witchers aren't needed as much. How great would that be?

                      Wanted to mention - The Season of Storms Witcher book has a short flash forward to around 150 years in the future, and they're starting to burn fossil fuels. That's where I got the 150 years.

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                        I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                        Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                        Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                        Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                        Tomb Raider. That's all I'm gonna say.

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                          she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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                          “Shut up, Ciri.” - Captain Picard

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                            Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

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                              I didn't like Witcher 3. I played the main storyline to Skellige and after a while of adventuring there, I just could not bring myself to continue the game.

                              I've read all the books, perhaps that has something to do with it.

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                              As far as fantasy goes, are the books good?

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                                I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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                                I had my 1080 until last month. Enjoying 5080 now!

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                                • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                                  If a game is deemed "woke" by right-wing shitheads, that's like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it's not because of being inclusive and diverse.

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                                  It's a lot easier - if Americans don't like what Europeans are doing, then it's a great thing they're doing!

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                                    I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                                    Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                                    Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                                    Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                                    I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                                      It's about time women got more accurate representation in games. How many games have you play as a man compared to playing as a woman? Technically it should be 50/50 to more accurately represent the real world.

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                                      Video games are not the real world. They do not have to follow the rules of the real world. Even if parts or all of the game model the real world, video games are artwork, and artwork invents its own rules. Trying to enforce rules onto art has not worked well in the past, and will likely not work well in the future either.

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                                        I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                                        Yeah. I haven't played 1 much beyond the first 10 minutes, was too janky. 2 was mostly focused on the war, with Geralt being the most important character IMO. In 3 he was no longer THE most important character, but he was a close second - out of a large cast of supporting characters that aided them on the way.

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                                          Unpopular opinion:

                                          Witcher 4 won’t be as good as Witcher 3 cause the third one was very good.

                                          So no matter who they chose, it’s probably gonna be underwhelming.

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                                          Nah, if the next Witcher MC was Dandelion, that would absolutely be the best one.

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