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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • H hyphlosion@lemm.ee
    22 May 2025, 21:28

    I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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    madjo@feddit.nl
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:33 last edited by
    #205

    I usually play as a female character in games too. I prefer to look at pretty things.

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    • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
      21 May 2025, 23:25
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      nigelfrobisher@aussie.zone
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:48 last edited by
      #206

      They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
        21 May 2025, 23:25
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        boonhet@lemm.ee
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:49 last edited by boonhet@lemm.ee
        #207

        I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

        Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

        Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

        Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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        • B bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
          22 May 2025, 21:31

          You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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          boonhet@lemm.ee
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:56 last edited by
          #208

          You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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          • B boonhet@lemm.ee
            22 May 2025, 22:56

            You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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            bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:59 last edited by
            #209

            I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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            • V vane@lemmy.world
              22 May 2025, 11:59

              Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can't be a witcher it's because they claim it's woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it's political. I clearly state it's not. I don't want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That's all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it's woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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              trainguyrom@reddthat.com
              wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:03 last edited by
              #210

              It's a game series (and later media series) literally based on a series of books. The short stories tell Garalt's story, but the longform books are far more about Ciri than they are Geralt. Go read them they're brilliant books but more important to the point you'll understand why Ciri is so important to the story that's being told

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              • M medsal15@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                22 May 2025, 03:35

                An image with the words "Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily", each on its own line. "WOKE" can be read vertically with the first letters of each word

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                adambomb@lemmy.sdf.org
                wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:05 last edited by
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                Perfection

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                • N nuko147@lemm.ee
                  22 May 2025, 11:40

                  Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

                  Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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                  trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:07 last edited by
                  #212

                  Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

                  It's canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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                  • C cmhe@lemmy.world
                    22 May 2025, 19:19

                    Unless you are also complaining about it when white male characters are also surface-level, 2-D, copy-and-paste characters then all you are saying is "Only white male characters are allowed to be simple or a stereotype/trope."

                    What? Where am I saying that?

                    Yes I would complain about all kind of stereotypes. Even the "white muscular tough guy" could be considered sexual objectification. IMO CoD is sometimes pretty gay coded.

                    Lets be honest, not every game needs a complex and well written character, and that is fine. If they choose to go that route it doesn't matter what race, religion, or gender the character is in the first place. So it doesn't matter if they are a white male, a latina woman, or a black non-binary person.

                    I wasn't saying that. You can have games without a single character. Or where the character doesn't really matter, because it just an empty shell you are driving around and not more.

                    But IMO I mostly play story driven RPGs, where you are someone, and where you want the environment to react to you. It would be awesome if when you run around with colorful hair or tattoos, it would slightly change the disposition of the NPCs or cause them to comment on your appearance. Don't let this stuff be just cosmetics, it should be more meaningful, and embedded into the game world.

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                    comrade_spood@slrpnk.net
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:20 last edited by
                    #213

                    Then yeah I get that. Your initial argument without the context you just added was just reminiscent of bigoted arguments. It was wrong of me to assume

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                      21 May 2025, 23:25
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                      theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:20 last edited by
                      #214

                      Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don't think you deserve to enjoy things

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                      • S saharamaleikuhm@feddit.org
                        22 May 2025, 19:02

                        Quite the opposite for me. Having only random ass characters in the story would kill all my hype. Also I wished for Ciri as MC in the next game ever since I player W3, so for 10 years now.

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                        feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:27 last edited by feelzgoodman420@eviltoast.org
                        #215

                        My dream witcher game is set like 150 years in the future (early industrialized time period of the witcher universe.) And there could be tension as guns are invented and witchers aren't needed as much. How great would that be?

                        Wanted to mention - The Season of Storms Witcher book has a short flash forward to around 150 years in the future, and they're starting to burn fossil fuels. That's where I got the 150 years.

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                        • B boonhet@lemm.ee
                          22 May 2025, 22:49

                          I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                          Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                          Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                          Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                          el_abuelo@programming.dev
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 23:37 last edited by
                          #216

                          Tomb Raider. That's all I'm gonna say.

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                          • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca
                            22 May 2025, 21:49

                            she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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                            notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:00 last edited by
                            #217

                            “Shut up, Ciri.” - Captain Picard

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                            • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                              aux@feddit.uk
                              wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:28 last edited by
                              #218

                              Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

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                              • V vga@sopuli.xyz
                                22 May 2025, 15:39

                                I didn't like Witcher 3. I played the main storyline to Skellige and after a while of adventuring there, I just could not bring myself to continue the game.

                                I've read all the books, perhaps that has something to do with it.

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                                phar@lemmy.ml
                                wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:29 last edited by
                                #219

                                As far as fantasy goes, are the books good?

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                                • B bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
                                  22 May 2025, 22:59

                                  I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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                                  aux@feddit.uk
                                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:30 last edited by
                                  #220

                                  I had my 1080 until last month. Enjoying 5080 now!

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                                  • S samus12345@lemm.ee
                                    22 May 2025, 16:13

                                    If a game is deemed "woke" by right-wing shitheads, that's like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it's not because of being inclusive and diverse.

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                                    aux@feddit.uk
                                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:31 last edited by
                                    #221

                                    It's a lot easier - if Americans don't like what Europeans are doing, then it's a great thing they're doing!

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                                    • B boonhet@lemm.ee
                                      22 May 2025, 22:49

                                      I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                                      Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                                      Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                                      Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                                      faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
                                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:34 last edited by
                                      #222

                                      I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                                      • J joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf
                                        22 May 2025, 08:35

                                        It's about time women got more accurate representation in games. How many games have you play as a man compared to playing as a woman? Technically it should be 50/50 to more accurately represent the real world.

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                                        righthandofikaros@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:51 last edited by
                                        #223

                                        Video games are not the real world. They do not have to follow the rules of the real world. Even if parts or all of the game model the real world, video games are artwork, and artwork invents its own rules. Trying to enforce rules onto art has not worked well in the past, and will likely not work well in the future either.

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                                        • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
                                          23 May 2025, 00:34

                                          I've only played Witcher 3, and I thought it was obvious that it's Ciri's story being told from the perspective of the supporting cast, and that is an incredibly cool literary device.

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                                          boonhet@lemm.ee
                                          wrote on 23 May 2025, 00:52 last edited by
                                          #224

                                          Yeah. I haven't played 1 much beyond the first 10 minutes, was too janky. 2 was mostly focused on the war, with Geralt being the most important character IMO. In 3 he was no longer THE most important character, but he was a close second - out of a large cast of supporting characters that aided them on the way.

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