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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • J [email protected]

    Morrowind is the best. Oblivion remaster is better than skyrim (in my Morrowboomer opinion) and that was just refreshing a 20 year old game. I feel like there is a lot of hype for TES6 that it may not live up to, but surpassing skyrim is definitely doable.

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    Honestly TES6 has one thing going for it and that's that Skyrim is over a decade old now so matching the scale and scope of Skyrim is much more achievable.

    In my opinion when a sequel falls flat or is outshined by an earlier entry in the series, it's usually because the studio messed with the formula for the gameplay, not because of a change in characters

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      Thanks, I find the winky a much better option than the cold monotonous /s

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        If it does "flop", they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

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        Yup, with movies and games alike if it's "woke" and flops they always say that's why, when the truth is it just sucked.

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          I get this somewhat but including ciri? I feel like there was none of that with her character. What about her struck you as that?

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          she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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            hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

            they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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            And if I'm honest the books are similar. I like them, but all the women are super sexy super hot and they exist for Geralt to have sex with

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              The reactionary women-hating alt-right gamer-gate neo-nazi losers should just be ignored at this point.

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                I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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                I usually play as a female character in games too. I prefer to look at pretty things.

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                  They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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                    I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                    Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                    Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                    Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                      You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

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                      You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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                        You're not going to play Witcher 4 because you don't like the games, I'm not going to play because my PC is aging and I feel new GPUs are so ridiculously overpriced, I don't want to replace my RTX 3060 ti anytime soon.

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                        I feel that. Still rocking a 1080. And I’ve got a series s for new releases.

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                          Nah the author of article asume that all people that say that Ciri can't be a witcher it's because they claim it's woke and tries to turn those who disagree to say it's political. I clearly state it's not. I don't want Ciri in Witcher because I want to play Geralt. That's all. The author puts books to afirmate his claims that only people who read books are worthy to say something about Ciri being a Witcher protagonist and that everyone else says it's woke. No I disagree. Books are not Games.

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                          It's a game series (and later media series) literally based on a series of books. The short stories tell Garalt's story, but the longform books are far more about Ciri than they are Geralt. Go read them they're brilliant books but more important to the point you'll understand why Ciri is so important to the story that's being told

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                            An image with the words "Whatever Offends Klansmen Easily", each on its own line. "WOKE" can be read vertically with the first letters of each word

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                            Perfection

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                              Geralt needs retirement. The ending of Blood and Wine expansion, tells you that loud and clear, and agree with that. It was a perfect ending for the Trilogy.

                              Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now. I dont agree with the decision of Ciri becoming a Witcher (not making her the protagonist, but her taking the Mutagens), but i want to see how they explain that turn of events.

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                              Ending with Ciri following the Witcher path, is Canon now

                              It's canon in the books too. She was trained at Ker Moren, then trained by Yennefer but ultimately she gives up her magic entirely after pulling from fire as a source out of desperation. She remains an extremely skilled swordswoman with partial mutation

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                                Unless you are also complaining about it when white male characters are also surface-level, 2-D, copy-and-paste characters then all you are saying is "Only white male characters are allowed to be simple or a stereotype/trope."

                                What? Where am I saying that?

                                Yes I would complain about all kind of stereotypes. Even the "white muscular tough guy" could be considered sexual objectification. IMO CoD is sometimes pretty gay coded.

                                Lets be honest, not every game needs a complex and well written character, and that is fine. If they choose to go that route it doesn't matter what race, religion, or gender the character is in the first place. So it doesn't matter if they are a white male, a latina woman, or a black non-binary person.

                                I wasn't saying that. You can have games without a single character. Or where the character doesn't really matter, because it just an empty shell you are driving around and not more.

                                But IMO I mostly play story driven RPGs, where you are someone, and where you want the environment to react to you. It would be awesome if when you run around with colorful hair or tattoos, it would slightly change the disposition of the NPCs or cause them to comment on your appearance. Don't let this stuff be just cosmetics, it should be more meaningful, and embedded into the game world.

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                                Then yeah I get that. Your initial argument without the context you just added was just reminiscent of bigoted arguments. It was wrong of me to assume

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                                  Everything should be woke actually. If you complain about wokeness I don't think you deserve to enjoy things

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                                    Quite the opposite for me. Having only random ass characters in the story would kill all my hype. Also I wished for Ciri as MC in the next game ever since I player W3, so for 10 years now.

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                                    My dream witcher game is set like 150 years in the future (early industrialized time period of the witcher universe.) And there could be tension as guns are invented and witchers aren't needed as much. How great would that be?

                                    Wanted to mention - The Season of Storms Witcher book has a short flash forward to around 150 years in the future, and they're starting to burn fossil fuels. That's where I got the 150 years.

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                                      I've never read the books, but... It was clear from game 3 that she was going to play an important role in the future. The entire plot of the main campaign in Witcher 3 was about HER powers. The Wild Hunt wanted her, not Geralt.

                                      Plus also she's awesome anyway. What the fuck is wrong with people? Oh I can't enjoy my vibeo game with a wahmen as main character, it'll ruin my mood!

                                      Honestly I'd rather be looking at a cute girl dashing around than an old man, even if I identify more with the latter. Video games are for exploring things. Fantasy worlds, dragons, wraiths... And the biggest problem with suspending disbelief is playing a character who isn't the same gender as the player? lmao.

                                      Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer. Only been two and a half decades or so since I first touched a computer and played games.

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                                      Tomb Raider. That's all I'm gonna say.

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                                        she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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                                        “Shut up, Ciri.” - Captain Picard

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                                          Americans telling Polish how to write their books and make their games, lol. Fuck off!

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