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  3. "You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

"You can't just have Geralt for every single game" says his voice actor, and if you think The Witcher 4 making Ciri the protagonist is "woke," then "read the damn books"

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  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
    21 May 2025, 23:25
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    zebidiah@lemmy.ca
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 20:04 last edited by
    #187

    hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

    they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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    • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca
      22 May 2025, 20:04

      hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

      they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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      mildlyusedbrain@lemmy.world
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 20:45 last edited by
      #188

      I get this somewhat but including ciri? I feel like there was none of that with her character. What about her struck you as that?

      Z 1 Reply Last reply 22 May 2025, 21:49
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      • C courval@lemmy.world
        22 May 2025, 16:37

        Lol yes, thank you. I'm of the opinion that using /s defeats the whole point of sarcasm.. But at the same time I suspect the world is going crazy via misinterpreted sarcasm on the Internet.. It's a tough decision, maybe I should be using /s but then it's not sarcasm anymore..

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        bravo@eviltoast.org
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:19 last edited by
        #189

        Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture which says that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

        Poe's law is based on a comment written by Nathan Poe in 2005 on christianforums.com, an Internet forum on Christianity. The message was posted during a debate on creationism, where a previous poster had remarked to another user: "Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious".[4]

        The reply by Nathan Poe read:[1]

        Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.

        The original statement of Poe's law referred specifically to creationism, but it has since been generalized to apply to any kind of fundamentalism or extremism.[3]

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        • F f_off_reddit@lemmy.world
          22 May 2025, 15:37

          Oh boy the only issue I have is that I'm going to be unstoppable, Ciri is literally a broken main character nearing her full potential.

          Bitch can fucking dimension travel, trained in sword and fight by other witchers and IIRC Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts as well so it'd be like having an OP mix of Geralt+Yennefer

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          trainguyrom@reddthat.com
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:22 last edited by trainguyrom@reddthat.com
          #190

          Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts

          So I recently devoured the book series and can clarify, she was first trained as a Witcher, then as a sourceress by Yennefer, but after she was teleported into the middle of the desert and tried to use fire as a source of power out of desperation, she gave up all magical abilities as the fire was trying to consumer her. So shes a brilliant swordswoman, has partial Witcher mutation (some of the mutations come from the secret Witcher diet which she was fed at Ker Moren while being trained) and depending on when in the timeline the game takes place she would have incredible reflexes and some interdimensional travel capabilities.

          There's also some really interesting opportunities for storytelling given how Ciri's background is just soaked in trauma. On that note, I am also curious if they intend to play down the salaciousness for this entry or not. In the books Ciri was definitely curious (and heavily implied to be bi) but remained a virgin, and by the end of the series she was still a minor by modern standards. I want to say she was 16 or so at the end of the last book.

          I'm super excited to see where this game goes, because if its worthy of being released after the masterpiece that was The Witcher 3, it's going to be brilliant

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          • R raxiel@lemmy.world
            22 May 2025, 19:11

            Reading is also woke

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            hyphlosion@lemm.ee
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:24 last edited by
            #191

            Well I have had dreams of reading books. They’re weird. Like, I know it’s a dream and the sentences don’t make any sense. But I keep reading it anyways.

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            • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              22 May 2025, 15:25

              Hey, anybody remember when MGS 2 came out, and the mass of NA gamers were raging about having to play as Raiden, because he was a ... well in modern parlance, a beta cuck soyboy?

              Kinda flew over all their heads that Raiden was basically a more realistic reflection of the NA target demo for MGS games, and oh he also goes through legitimate character development, gains maturity and confidence, oh well now, more lately, he's basically a badass fucking cyberninja.

              ... Passing the torch off to Ciri fucking entirely makes sense within the world and lore of the Witcher series... and I thought we liked having an attractive gal booty to ogle at in third person?

              Or is that now gay?

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              trainguyrom@reddthat.com
              wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:28 last edited by
              #192

              Passing the torch off to Ciri fucking entirely makes sense within the world and lore of the Witcher serie

              It's also literally what happens in the books. Ciri grows as a person and becomes a badass swordswoman while Geralt eventually swears off taking monster contracts and later actually stops killing monsters. He even goes to donate his sword before getting pulled into one last battle to protect his friends and chosen family

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              • C courval@lemmy.world
                22 May 2025, 14:57

                People are complaining of having to stare at a female's body while playing? They prefer looking at at male's butt? That's soooo gay!

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                hyphlosion@lemm.ee
                wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:28 last edited by hyphlosion@lemm.ee
                #193

                I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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                • B bravo@eviltoast.org
                  22 May 2025, 21:19

                  Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture which says that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

                  Poe's law is based on a comment written by Nathan Poe in 2005 on christianforums.com, an Internet forum on Christianity. The message was posted during a debate on creationism, where a previous poster had remarked to another user: "Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious".[4]

                  The reply by Nathan Poe read:[1]

                  Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.

                  The original statement of Poe's law referred specifically to creationism, but it has since been generalized to apply to any kind of fundamentalism or extremism.[3]

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                  hyphlosion@lemm.ee
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:30 last edited by
                  #194

                  Since when is Poe making laws? I thought he’s an X-Wing pilot.

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                  • S samus12345@lemm.ee
                    22 May 2025, 16:13

                    If a game is deemed "woke" by right-wing shitheads, that's like a seal of approval for me. Now, the game might still suck, but it's not because of being inclusive and diverse.

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                    rose@lemmy.zip
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:30 last edited by
                    #195

                    If it does "flop", they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

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                    • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                      bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:31 last edited by
                      #196

                      You’re not going to play Witcher 4 because of woke Ciri, I’m not going to play because I don’t like the games. We are not the same

                      B H 2 Replies Last reply 22 May 2025, 22:56
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                      • T trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                        22 May 2025, 21:22

                        Yennefer trained her in some sort of sorcery arts

                        So I recently devoured the book series and can clarify, she was first trained as a Witcher, then as a sourceress by Yennefer, but after she was teleported into the middle of the desert and tried to use fire as a source of power out of desperation, she gave up all magical abilities as the fire was trying to consumer her. So shes a brilliant swordswoman, has partial Witcher mutation (some of the mutations come from the secret Witcher diet which she was fed at Ker Moren while being trained) and depending on when in the timeline the game takes place she would have incredible reflexes and some interdimensional travel capabilities.

                        There's also some really interesting opportunities for storytelling given how Ciri's background is just soaked in trauma. On that note, I am also curious if they intend to play down the salaciousness for this entry or not. In the books Ciri was definitely curious (and heavily implied to be bi) but remained a virgin, and by the end of the series she was still a minor by modern standards. I want to say she was 16 or so at the end of the last book.

                        I'm super excited to see where this game goes, because if its worthy of being released after the masterpiece that was The Witcher 3, it's going to be brilliant

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                        uid0gid0@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:34 last edited by
                        #197

                        Don't forget the carnivorous unicorns

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                        • F floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                          22 May 2025, 08:28

                          Don't let the alt-right dictate what "woke" means

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                          rose@lemmy.zip
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:34 last edited by
                          #198

                          Let Doechii do it for you 😛

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                          • J jtskywalker@lemm.ee
                            22 May 2025, 17:35

                            Morrowind is the best. Oblivion remaster is better than skyrim (in my Morrowboomer opinion) and that was just refreshing a 20 year old game. I feel like there is a lot of hype for TES6 that it may not live up to, but surpassing skyrim is definitely doable.

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                            trainguyrom@reddthat.com
                            wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:35 last edited by
                            #199

                            Honestly TES6 has one thing going for it and that's that Skyrim is over a decade old now so matching the scale and scope of Skyrim is much more achievable.

                            In my opinion when a sequel falls flat or is outshined by an earlier entry in the series, it's usually because the studio messed with the formula for the gameplay, not because of a change in characters

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                            • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
                              21 May 2025, 23:25
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                              courval@lemmy.world
                              wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:36 last edited by
                              #200

                              Thanks, I find the winky a much better option than the cold monotonous /s

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                              • R rose@lemmy.zip
                                22 May 2025, 21:30

                                If it does "flop", they undoubtedly would chalk it up to it being inclusive and diverse though. Otherwise they just quickly move on to the next target.

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                                samus12345@lemm.ee
                                wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:44 last edited by
                                #201

                                Yup, with movies and games alike if it's "woke" and flops they always say that's why, when the truth is it just sucked.

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                                • M mildlyusedbrain@lemmy.world
                                  22 May 2025, 20:45

                                  I get this somewhat but including ciri? I feel like there was none of that with her character. What about her struck you as that?

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                                  zebidiah@lemmy.ca
                                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:49 last edited by
                                  #202

                                  she was basically wesley crusher, without the character growth.... she was a plot device, not a character.

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                                  • Z zebidiah@lemmy.ca
                                    22 May 2025, 20:04

                                    hot take: i fucking hated the way ciri and every single other woman in witcher3 was written/portrayed...

                                    they all felt like they were written by incels who have never met or conversed with an actual real woman. they were shallow game of thrones/fantasy tropes and felt like walking talking cliches. i literally cringed through every interaction...

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                                    kellamity@sh.itjust.works
                                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 21:59 last edited by
                                    #203

                                    And if I'm honest the books are similar. I like them, but all the women are super sexy super hot and they exist for Geralt to have sex with

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                                      madjo@feddit.nl
                                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:31 last edited by
                                      #204

                                      The reactionary women-hating alt-right gamer-gate neo-nazi losers should just be ignored at this point.

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                                      • H hyphlosion@lemm.ee
                                        22 May 2025, 21:28

                                        I’m a straight male who is very secure in my masculinity. But I’ve gotten shit from people when I use female characters in games. Never understood why that’s a problem.

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                                        madjo@feddit.nl
                                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:33 last edited by
                                        #205

                                        I usually play as a female character in games too. I prefer to look at pretty things.

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                                          nigelfrobisher@aussie.zone
                                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 22:48 last edited by
                                          #206

                                          They should do a Last Of Us prequel with Joel, but he dies in that one too due to time travel shenanigans.

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