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Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"

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  • C cethin@lemmy.zip
    23 May 2025, 04:39

    I would absolutely disagree. Fun, maybe. Mindless fun? No. I'm fine with games that are mindless fun, but it isn't what all games should strive for. I personally much prefer games that require your focus and consideration.

    Mindless fun is cheap and easy. Making a game that sits in people minds for years is difficult and takes effort, but is much more rewarding. BG3, for example, is anything but mindless, which is why it's been able to still be in conversations for so long after it released. How much do people talk about Call of Duty, even though it sells like crazy?

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    bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
    wrote on 23 May 2025, 06:04 last edited by
    #39

    i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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    • E echodot@feddit.uk
      23 May 2025, 04:45

      Yeah and they didn't cost $80.

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      bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
      wrote on 23 May 2025, 06:04 last edited by
      #40

      didnt cost 70 either, like bg3

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      • N notforyourstereo@lemmy.world
        23 May 2025, 05:59

        Damn, I'm sorry.

        Hope you get to play something that isn't pure dogshit one of these days.

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        bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
        wrote on 23 May 2025, 06:05 last edited by
        #41

        what game would you consider "not pure dogshit"? seriously, what games? give me a list, because if an acclaimed franchise that was widely praised and birthed a literal genre is considered dogshit, then what isnt dogshit?

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        • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
          23 May 2025, 06:05

          what game would you consider "not pure dogshit"? seriously, what games? give me a list, because if an acclaimed franchise that was widely praised and birthed a literal genre is considered dogshit, then what isnt dogshit?

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          omarfw@lemmy.world
          wrote on 23 May 2025, 06:32 last edited by
          #42

          borderlands wasn't the first looter shooter. that was hellgate london.

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          • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
            23 May 2025, 06:04

            i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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            cethin@lemmy.zip
            wrote on 23 May 2025, 08:28 last edited by
            #43

            People talk about playing CoD. They don't discuss the game really, and also this is being discussed because it's news, and also because they're being greedy and stupid. Again, it isn't the game being discussed.

            BG3 people talk about the story, the writing, the gameplay, etc. They talk about how the game is something actually made for players, to be enjoyed, not by business people to make money. They talk about the game.

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            • M mitm0@lemmy.world
              22 May 2025, 08:12

              We need piracy guides for linux users as well, brother/sister

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              cethin@lemmy.zip
              wrote on 23 May 2025, 08:38 last edited by
              #44

              Do you really need a guide? It works exactly the same as Windows. The only difference is you need to run it through WINE with Proton. That's easiest handled with Heroic Launcher or Lutris, which you're probably already using one of these already. Just add the executable and launch it. (You may need to run an installer first, which Heroic at least makes really easy.)

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              • C cethin@lemmy.zip
                23 May 2025, 08:28

                People talk about playing CoD. They don't discuss the game really, and also this is being discussed because it's news, and also because they're being greedy and stupid. Again, it isn't the game being discussed.

                BG3 people talk about the story, the writing, the gameplay, etc. They talk about how the game is something actually made for players, to be enjoyed, not by business people to make money. They talk about the game.

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                bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                wrote on 23 May 2025, 08:41 last edited by
                #45

                i dont get it. talking about playing a game isnt talking about the game? what sense does that make

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                • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                  23 May 2025, 08:41

                  i dont get it. talking about playing a game isnt talking about the game? what sense does that make

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                  cethin@lemmy.zip
                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 09:00 last edited by cethin@lemmy.zip
                  #46

                  Saying "do you want to play CoD tonight" is different than discussing why the gameplay of CoD is good/new/innovative/whatever.

                  I actually did see people discuss the campaign of the new CoD (or maybe the one before) because it was actually fairly unique for them. Other than that, the only time I hear about CoD is people talking about how much money it makes, how bad the skins are, or things like that. It holds almost no relevance in game discussion circles because everything they did well has been innovated on since then.

                  People talked about how smooth and responsive CoD 4 was, because it was innovating. People don't talk about the mechanics of whatever the latest CoD is, because it's not doing anything worth copying.

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                  • S solidshake@lemmy.world
                    22 May 2025, 13:17

                    How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.

                    What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.

                    This is more of a don't pre order type thing.

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                    nuko147@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 09:10 last edited by
                    #47

                    I always trying my games before i buy them.

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                      22 May 2025, 04:17
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                      notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world
                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 09:12 last edited by
                      #48

                      Damn. I honestly had no interest in Borderlands anymore, but this has inspired me to pirate Borderlands 4 just as a fuck you.

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                      • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                        23 May 2025, 06:04

                        i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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                        vespair@lemm.ee
                        wrote on 23 May 2025, 09:14 last edited by
                        #49

                        People eat and talk about McDonalds every day, but that doesn't make it haute cuisine.

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                        • E echodot@feddit.uk
                          23 May 2025, 04:32

                          Here's really important thing that the likes of randy don't want to know. I would actually pay $80 for Baldur's Gate 3, because that product is actually worth it. You can actually see where your money is going what it's paying for.

                          But Borderlands, really? I was already not interested in this game, but why would anyone pay $80 for, at best, an AA game?

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                          zqps@sh.itjust.works
                          wrote on 23 May 2025, 12:01 last edited by
                          #50

                          They're really just milking what nostalgia still remains for a franchise that people have largely moved on from.

                          They could instead try to boldly reinvent it to grab new customers, but I'm not seeing it.

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                          • S solidshake@lemmy.world
                            22 May 2025, 13:17

                            How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.

                            What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.

                            This is more of a don't pre order type thing.

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                            overload@sopuli.xyz
                            wrote on 23 May 2025, 12:13 last edited by
                            #51

                            IMO If they made a game exactly like BL1/2 with better graphics and updated gameplay, it still wouldn't be worth $80.

                            BL just isn't all that great, but fortunately the price of their games falls to what they're worth pretty quickly.

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                            • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                              23 May 2025, 01:14

                              mindless fun is the best quality a video game can ever have

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                              empricorn@feddit.nl
                              wrote on 23 May 2025, 12:19 last edited by empricorn@feddit.nl
                              #52

                              This is as wrong as Ebert saying games can't be "art".

                              I love silly, junk-food sitcoms. But I would never say they are the best quality.

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                              • B bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                                23 May 2025, 01:14

                                mindless fun is the best quality a video game can ever have

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                                supersaiyanswag@lemmy.zip
                                wrote on 23 May 2025, 12:19 last edited by
                                #53

                                But that type of fun is something I can get from many other games, making borderlands way less desirable if it’s $80. On the other hand if larian says that their next game is $80, I already know that I won’t find that type of experience anywhere else and I might just splurge.

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                                • C cethin@lemmy.zip
                                  23 May 2025, 09:00

                                  Saying "do you want to play CoD tonight" is different than discussing why the gameplay of CoD is good/new/innovative/whatever.

                                  I actually did see people discuss the campaign of the new CoD (or maybe the one before) because it was actually fairly unique for them. Other than that, the only time I hear about CoD is people talking about how much money it makes, how bad the skins are, or things like that. It holds almost no relevance in game discussion circles because everything they did well has been innovated on since then.

                                  People talked about how smooth and responsive CoD 4 was, because it was innovating. People don't talk about the mechanics of whatever the latest CoD is, because it's not doing anything worth copying.

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                                  bigbananadealer@lemm.ee
                                  wrote on 23 May 2025, 16:28 last edited by
                                  #54

                                  not talking about "do you want to play cod" but hey at least people talk about it

                                  whos talking about bg3 besides you here? i havent seen them

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                                    22 May 2025, 04:17
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                                    catdogl0ver@lemmy.world
                                    wrote on 23 May 2025, 16:29 last edited by
                                    #55

                                    Guess I will wait for Dale then. I didn't even finish the last borderlands

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                                    • N notasharkinamansuit@lemmy.world
                                      23 May 2025, 09:12

                                      Damn. I honestly had no interest in Borderlands anymore, but this has inspired me to pirate Borderlands 4 just as a fuck you.

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                                      flemmy@lemm.ee
                                      wrote on 23 May 2025, 16:43 last edited by
                                      #56

                                      Borderlands 3 was fun but like a final piece to this genre. Many guns, amusing storyline, corny humor and great world design.

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                                        pyre@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 23 May 2025, 17:53 last edited by pyre@lemmy.world
                                        #57

                                        it's incredible that pitchford is still allowed to talk. there should be a bot that auto-responds "shut the fuck up" to everything he says, tweets, or even thinks.

                                        hey I'll let you price this 80 bucks if you fully refund me for the scam that was borderlands 1. fucking unfinished piece of shit, i can't believe i played that game for multiple hours hoping it would improve beyond the first.

                                        and later i learned that i was completely right to quit that shit because the bullshit throwaway story of this "rpg" doesn't even conclude properly. it literally ends like Geraldo Rivera's fucking Al Capone vault.

                                        fuck you pitchford. shut the fuck up and go back to "storing porn for the purposes of researching magic tricks" or whatever. literally never speak again.

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                                        • C cethin@lemmy.zip
                                          23 May 2025, 04:39

                                          I would absolutely disagree. Fun, maybe. Mindless fun? No. I'm fine with games that are mindless fun, but it isn't what all games should strive for. I personally much prefer games that require your focus and consideration.

                                          Mindless fun is cheap and easy. Making a game that sits in people minds for years is difficult and takes effort, but is much more rewarding. BG3, for example, is anything but mindless, which is why it's been able to still be in conversations for so long after it released. How much do people talk about Call of Duty, even though it sells like crazy?

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                                          elevator7009@lemmy.zip
                                          wrote on 24 May 2025, 01:13 last edited by
                                          #58

                                          Eh, I wouldn't say even mindless fun is easy, from what I hear game dev is hard and a lot of effort and hard work can still end up in something unfun. Probably not your intention but I don't want to devalue the efforts of people who probably want to make something to help other people enjoy a bit, that I probably don't have the skill to make myself.

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