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Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"

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    The only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.

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    yea, but BG3 didn't release in a complete state. With that said, Larian has delivered on their promise and that's really a good example of how a AA/AAA title can do early access in a good and healthy way.

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      Here's really important thing that the likes of randy don't want to know. I would actually pay $80 for Baldur's Gate 3, because that product is actually worth it. You can actually see where your money is going what it's paying for.

      But Borderlands, really? I was already not interested in this game, but why would anyone pay $80 for, at best, an AA game?

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      • bigbananadealer@lemm.eeB [email protected]

        mindless fun is the best quality a video game can ever have

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        I would absolutely disagree. Fun, maybe. Mindless fun? No. I'm fine with games that are mindless fun, but it isn't what all games should strive for. I personally much prefer games that require your focus and consideration.

        Mindless fun is cheap and easy. Making a game that sits in people minds for years is difficult and takes effort, but is much more rewarding. BG3, for example, is anything but mindless, which is why it's been able to still be in conversations for so long after it released. How much do people talk about Call of Duty, even though it sells like crazy?

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        • bigbananadealer@lemm.eeB [email protected]

          he did though? borderlands 1, 2, pre sequel, and 3

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          Yeah and they didn't cost $80.

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            Not to mention, all of the dlc that'll inevitably be released, following every other borderlands game pattern. Wonder what they'll try to set the prices of those at

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            DLC now costs $60. If you can’t afford it, sell a kidney /s.

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              Here's really important thing that the likes of randy don't want to know. I would actually pay $80 for Baldur's Gate 3, because that product is actually worth it. You can actually see where your money is going what it's paying for.

              But Borderlands, really? I was already not interested in this game, but why would anyone pay $80 for, at best, an AA game?

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              I'd sooner spend it on a "AA" game than an AAA game, frankly

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                he did though? borderlands 1, 2, pre sequel, and 3

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                Damn, I'm sorry.

                Hope you get to play something that isn't pure dogshit one of these days.

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                  I would absolutely disagree. Fun, maybe. Mindless fun? No. I'm fine with games that are mindless fun, but it isn't what all games should strive for. I personally much prefer games that require your focus and consideration.

                  Mindless fun is cheap and easy. Making a game that sits in people minds for years is difficult and takes effort, but is much more rewarding. BG3, for example, is anything but mindless, which is why it's been able to still be in conversations for so long after it released. How much do people talk about Call of Duty, even though it sells like crazy?

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                  i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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                    Yeah and they didn't cost $80.

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                    didnt cost 70 either, like bg3

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                      Damn, I'm sorry.

                      Hope you get to play something that isn't pure dogshit one of these days.

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                      what game would you consider "not pure dogshit"? seriously, what games? give me a list, because if an acclaimed franchise that was widely praised and birthed a literal genre is considered dogshit, then what isnt dogshit?

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                        what game would you consider "not pure dogshit"? seriously, what games? give me a list, because if an acclaimed franchise that was widely praised and birthed a literal genre is considered dogshit, then what isnt dogshit?

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                        borderlands wasn't the first looter shooter. that was hellgate london.

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                          i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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                          People talk about playing CoD. They don't discuss the game really, and also this is being discussed because it's news, and also because they're being greedy and stupid. Again, it isn't the game being discussed.

                          BG3 people talk about the story, the writing, the gameplay, etc. They talk about how the game is something actually made for players, to be enjoyed, not by business people to make money. They talk about the game.

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                            We need piracy guides for linux users as well, brother/sister

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                            Do you really need a guide? It works exactly the same as Windows. The only difference is you need to run it through WINE with Proton. That's easiest handled with Heroic Launcher or Lutris, which you're probably already using one of these already. Just add the executable and launch it. (You may need to run an installer first, which Heroic at least makes really easy.)

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                              People talk about playing CoD. They don't discuss the game really, and also this is being discussed because it's news, and also because they're being greedy and stupid. Again, it isn't the game being discussed.

                              BG3 people talk about the story, the writing, the gameplay, etc. They talk about how the game is something actually made for players, to be enjoyed, not by business people to make money. They talk about the game.

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                              i dont get it. talking about playing a game isnt talking about the game? what sense does that make

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                                i dont get it. talking about playing a game isnt talking about the game? what sense does that make

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                                Saying "do you want to play CoD tonight" is different than discussing why the gameplay of CoD is good/new/innovative/whatever.

                                I actually did see people discuss the campaign of the new CoD (or maybe the one before) because it was actually fairly unique for them. Other than that, the only time I hear about CoD is people talking about how much money it makes, how bad the skins are, or things like that. It holds almost no relevance in game discussion circles because everything they did well has been innovated on since then.

                                People talked about how smooth and responsive CoD 4 was, because it was innovating. People don't talk about the mechanics of whatever the latest CoD is, because it's not doing anything worth copying.

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                                  How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.

                                  What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.

                                  This is more of a don't pre order type thing.

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                                  I always trying my games before i buy them.

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                                    Damn. I honestly had no interest in Borderlands anymore, but this has inspired me to pirate Borderlands 4 just as a fuck you.

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                                      i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who's currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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                                      People eat and talk about McDonalds every day, but that doesn't make it haute cuisine.

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                                        Here's really important thing that the likes of randy don't want to know. I would actually pay $80 for Baldur's Gate 3, because that product is actually worth it. You can actually see where your money is going what it's paying for.

                                        But Borderlands, really? I was already not interested in this game, but why would anyone pay $80 for, at best, an AA game?

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                                        They're really just milking what nostalgia still remains for a franchise that people have largely moved on from.

                                        They could instead try to boldly reinvent it to grab new customers, but I'm not seeing it.

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                                          How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what's in the game except the devs.

                                          What if it's OG borderlands and there's no battle pass or microtransactions.

                                          This is more of a don't pre order type thing.

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                                          IMO If they made a game exactly like BL1/2 with better graphics and updated gameplay, it still wouldn't be worth $80.

                                          BL just isn't all that great, but fortunately the price of their games falls to what they're worth pretty quickly.

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