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Fan-made Mario Kart 64 PC port released, with track editor and ultrawide support

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  • L lorips@lemmy.world
    17 days ago

    Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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    lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
    wrote 17 days ago last edited by
    #9

    Emulators ARE 100% legal.

    It's the roms that are illegal.

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    • T tonytins@pawb.social
      17 days ago
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      ramblingpanda@lemmynsfw.com
      wrote 17 days ago last edited by
      #10

      If they're not complete idiots, they'd license this to release all their stuff. But they're Nintendo, so...

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      • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
        17 days ago

        Emulators ARE 100% legal.

        It's the roms that are illegal.

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        tonytins@pawb.social
        wrote 17 days ago last edited by
        #11

        Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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        • L lorips@lemmy.world
          17 days ago

          Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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          blackjam_alex@lemmy.world
          wrote 17 days ago last edited by blackjam_alex@lemmy.world
          #12

          Decomps are legal because they're clean room reimplementations of the original code rather than exact copies.

          It's the same approach IBM PC compatible manufacturers used back in the day to create their own BIOSes.

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          • T tonytins@pawb.social
            17 days ago
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            amillionmonkeys@lemmy.world
            wrote 17 days ago last edited by
            #13

            Might as well link to it:
            https://github.com/HarbourMasters/SpaghettiKart
            You need to supply your own ROM of the correct version.

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            • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
              17 days ago

              Nintendo cease and disist in 3...2....1....

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              dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
              wrote 17 days ago last edited by dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
              #14

              Nintendo hasn't really C&D any of the previous decomps. they can for people who upload the whole precompiled executable, but none of them that requires actually ripping the original assets yourself to create the required game.

              Animal Crossing is next, as 6 days ago, the gamecube version of the game was decompiled to completion. It's a extremely big prime candidate for modding IMO.

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              • L lorips@lemmy.world
                17 days ago

                Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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                blue_morpho@lemmy.world
                wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                #15

                There's no precedent. Nintendo sues, the developer doesn't have money for lawyers to defend themselves so they remove it.

                That's how it's been going for a long time.

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                • H hddsx@lemmy.ca
                  17 days ago

                  And Nintendo has not yet sued because…?

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                  catloaf@lemm.ee
                  wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                  #16

                  On what grounds?

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                  • R ramblingpanda@lemmynsfw.com
                    17 days ago

                    If they're not complete idiots, they'd license this to release all their stuff. But they're Nintendo, so...

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                    catloaf@lemm.ee
                    wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                    #17

                    Stuff like this almost never happens due to the legal liability. They can't ensure that the authors aren't violating some other contract, like using some library unlicensed, or violating an employer's noncompete or something.

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                    • T tonytins@pawb.social
                      17 days ago

                      Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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                      catloaf@lemm.ee
                      wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                      #18

                      Why do you say that?

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                      • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                        17 days ago

                        Why do you say that?

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                        tonytins@pawb.social
                        wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                        #19

                        It's like being handed a MP3 player but being told you'll go to jail for playing music you ripped yourself.

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                        • T tonytins@pawb.social
                          17 days ago

                          It's like being handed a MP3 player but being told you'll go to jail for playing music you ripped yourself.

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                          catloaf@lemm.ee
                          wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                          #20

                          Generally, ripping for personal use is not litigated, only distribution. It may technically be illegal in most places, but then, reproducing someone's work without compensation should be prohibited.

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                            17 days ago
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                            twintitans@lemmy.world
                            wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                            #21

                            Let me know when Diddy Kong Racing's done. GOAT.

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                            • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                              17 days ago

                              On what grounds?

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                              baldingpudenda@lemmy.world
                              wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                              #22

                              For making a port? A succulent Japanese port of a 30 year old game? Unhand me, sir!

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                              • T tonytins@pawb.social
                                17 days ago

                                Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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                                mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                #23

                                Not really; The emulator doesn’t use any copyrighted code, but the ROM is copyrighted. That’s just basic IP law.

                                What is fucked up logic is Nintendo encrypting their ROMs, then providing decryption keys on the console. So the emulator itself is legal, but actually booting a ROM requires decrypting it, which requires keys from a legitimate console. Nintendo has argued that those keys are illegal to use in an emulator, even if the user rips them directly from the console that they own. So you have the keys. You own the console they’re stored on. But it’s illegal to use those keys anywhere except on the console they came on, because Nintendo said so.

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                                • G green_mouse@piefed.social
                                  17 days ago

                                  The fact that they are adding more features and modding for these fan ports is incredible, I just hope that Nintendo doesn't come in and shut down these fan ports like they like to do with fan games/projects/etc.

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                                  mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                  wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                  #24

                                  like they like to do with fan games/projects/etc.

                                  Cries while staring at the defunct AM2R project

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                                  • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                                    17 days ago

                                    On what grounds?

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                                    huquad@lemmy.ml
                                    wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                    #25

                                    Its Nintendo, do they need grounds?

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                                    • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                                      17 days ago

                                      Generally, ripping for personal use is not litigated, only distribution. It may technically be illegal in most places, but then, reproducing someone's work without compensation should be prohibited.

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                                      lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
                                      wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                      #26

                                      There was a point in the 1980s where PC games fully allowed and encouraged you to copy your games for backup purposes. They even had some companies who gave detailed steps explaining how.

                                      What ended up happening is you owned a PC, your buddy owned a PC. You made two backups of the game. One for you, and one for your buddy. Now between the two of you, you buy half the games, because you buy one, your buddy buys a different one. And now you both have two games.

                                      Now multiply that by however many friends you knew who owned PCs. You might buy 1 game, but own 15 games.

                                      By the 90s, PC game makers did a 180, and were now trying to prevent archiving of their games, but it was too late. Laws had been written to allow for backup of personal data. Yes, you WERE breaking the law by giving your buddy the backup, but they couldn't prevent you from creating the backup.

                                      And in a pre-internet world, how would they ever even know you made a backup?

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                                      • T twintitans@lemmy.world
                                        17 days ago

                                        Let me know when Diddy Kong Racing's done. GOAT.

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                                        tronn4@lemmy.world
                                        wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                        #27

                                        Nice try, diddy

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                                          altima_neo@lemmy.zip
                                          wrote 17 days ago last edited by
                                          #28

                                          Not just ultrawide support, but also interpolated frames for super smooth frame rate.

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