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Fan-made Mario Kart 64 PC port released, with track editor and ultrawide support

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  • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
    21 days ago

    Nintendo cease and disist in 3...2....1....

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    lorips@lemmy.world
    wrote 21 days ago last edited by lorips@lemmy.world
    #8

    Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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    • L lorips@lemmy.world
      21 days ago

      Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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      lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
      #9

      Emulators ARE 100% legal.

      It's the roms that are illegal.

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      • T tonytins@pawb.social
        22 days ago
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        ramblingpanda@lemmynsfw.com
        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
        #10

        If they're not complete idiots, they'd license this to release all their stuff. But they're Nintendo, so...

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        • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
          21 days ago

          Emulators ARE 100% legal.

          It's the roms that are illegal.

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          tonytins@pawb.social
          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
          #11

          Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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          • L lorips@lemmy.world
            21 days ago

            Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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            blackjam_alex@lemmy.world
            wrote 21 days ago last edited by blackjam_alex@lemmy.world
            #12

            Decomps are legal because they're clean room reimplementations of the original code rather than exact copies.

            It's the same approach IBM PC compatible manufacturers used back in the day to create their own BIOSes.

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            • T tonytins@pawb.social
              22 days ago
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              amillionmonkeys@lemmy.world
              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
              #13

              Might as well link to it:
              https://github.com/HarbourMasters/SpaghettiKart
              You need to supply your own ROM of the correct version.

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              • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
                21 days ago

                Nintendo cease and disist in 3...2....1....

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                dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
                wrote 21 days ago last edited by dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
                #14

                Nintendo hasn't really C&D any of the previous decomps. they can for people who upload the whole precompiled executable, but none of them that requires actually ripping the original assets yourself to create the required game.

                Animal Crossing is next, as 6 days ago, the gamecube version of the game was decompiled to completion. It's a extremely big prime candidate for modding IMO.

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                • L lorips@lemmy.world
                  21 days ago

                  Probably not, they don't provide copyrighted files and Nintendo reeeeeaaaally doesn't want to create precedent that decomp is fair use (which it probably is) which could make emulators 100% legal.

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                  blue_morpho@lemmy.world
                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                  #15

                  There's no precedent. Nintendo sues, the developer doesn't have money for lawyers to defend themselves so they remove it.

                  That's how it's been going for a long time.

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                  • H hddsx@lemmy.ca
                    21 days ago

                    And Nintendo has not yet sued because…?

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                    catloaf@lemm.ee
                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                    #16

                    On what grounds?

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                    • R ramblingpanda@lemmynsfw.com
                      21 days ago

                      If they're not complete idiots, they'd license this to release all their stuff. But they're Nintendo, so...

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                      catloaf@lemm.ee
                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                      #17

                      Stuff like this almost never happens due to the legal liability. They can't ensure that the authors aren't violating some other contract, like using some library unlicensed, or violating an employer's noncompete or something.

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                      • T tonytins@pawb.social
                        21 days ago

                        Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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                        catloaf@lemm.ee
                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                        #18

                        Why do you say that?

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                        • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                          21 days ago

                          Why do you say that?

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                          tonytins@pawb.social
                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                          #19

                          It's like being handed a MP3 player but being told you'll go to jail for playing music you ripped yourself.

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                          • T tonytins@pawb.social
                            21 days ago

                            It's like being handed a MP3 player but being told you'll go to jail for playing music you ripped yourself.

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                            catloaf@lemm.ee
                            wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                            #20

                            Generally, ripping for personal use is not litigated, only distribution. It may technically be illegal in most places, but then, reproducing someone's work without compensation should be prohibited.

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                            • T tonytins@pawb.social
                              22 days ago
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                              twintitans@lemmy.world
                              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                              #21

                              Let me know when Diddy Kong Racing's done. GOAT.

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                              • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                                21 days ago

                                On what grounds?

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                                baldingpudenda@lemmy.world
                                wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                #22

                                For making a port? A succulent Japanese port of a 30 year old game? Unhand me, sir!

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                                • T tonytins@pawb.social
                                  21 days ago

                                  Which is pretty fucked up logic.

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                                  mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                  wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                  #23

                                  Not really; The emulator doesn’t use any copyrighted code, but the ROM is copyrighted. That’s just basic IP law.

                                  What is fucked up logic is Nintendo encrypting their ROMs, then providing decryption keys on the console. So the emulator itself is legal, but actually booting a ROM requires decrypting it, which requires keys from a legitimate console. Nintendo has argued that those keys are illegal to use in an emulator, even if the user rips them directly from the console that they own. So you have the keys. You own the console they’re stored on. But it’s illegal to use those keys anywhere except on the console they came on, because Nintendo said so.

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                                  • G green_mouse@piefed.social
                                    21 days ago

                                    The fact that they are adding more features and modding for these fan ports is incredible, I just hope that Nintendo doesn't come in and shut down these fan ports like they like to do with fan games/projects/etc.

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                                    mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                    wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                    #24

                                    like they like to do with fan games/projects/etc.

                                    Cries while staring at the defunct AM2R project

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                                    • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                                      21 days ago

                                      On what grounds?

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                                      huquad@lemmy.ml
                                      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                      #25

                                      Its Nintendo, do they need grounds?

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                                      • C catloaf@lemm.ee
                                        21 days ago

                                        Generally, ripping for personal use is not litigated, only distribution. It may technically be illegal in most places, but then, reproducing someone's work without compensation should be prohibited.

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                                        lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
                                        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                        #26

                                        There was a point in the 1980s where PC games fully allowed and encouraged you to copy your games for backup purposes. They even had some companies who gave detailed steps explaining how.

                                        What ended up happening is you owned a PC, your buddy owned a PC. You made two backups of the game. One for you, and one for your buddy. Now between the two of you, you buy half the games, because you buy one, your buddy buys a different one. And now you both have two games.

                                        Now multiply that by however many friends you knew who owned PCs. You might buy 1 game, but own 15 games.

                                        By the 90s, PC game makers did a 180, and were now trying to prevent archiving of their games, but it was too late. Laws had been written to allow for backup of personal data. Yes, you WERE breaking the law by giving your buddy the backup, but they couldn't prevent you from creating the backup.

                                        And in a pre-internet world, how would they ever even know you made a backup?

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                                        • T twintitans@lemmy.world
                                          21 days ago

                                          Let me know when Diddy Kong Racing's done. GOAT.

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                                          tronn4@lemmy.world
                                          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
                                          #27

                                          Nice try, diddy

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