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$80 for Borderlands 4 too costly? Randy Pitchford says, "If you're a real fan, you'll find a way to make it happen"

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  • X xiii@lemmy.world
    21 May 2025, 21:41

    While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
    Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
    When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

    https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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    conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:24 last edited by
    #122

    If anyone deserves for his workers to get unionized, it's this asshole

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    • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
      20 May 2025, 18:10
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      turboharbinger@feddit.cl
      wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:25 last edited by
      #123

      I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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        quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
        wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:29 last edited by
        #124

        In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

        Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

        Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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          jaykrown@lemm.ee
          wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:38 last edited by
          #125

          Nope, just would play Tiny Tina's Wonderland again honestly, which I got for around $10 when it was heavily on sale a year ago.

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          • Q quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
            22 May 2025, 00:29

            In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

            Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

            Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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            andros_rex@lemmy.world
            wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:44 last edited by
            #126

            Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

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              andros_rex@lemmy.world
              wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:46 last edited by andros_rex@lemmy.world
              #127

              Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)

              Callender's suit alleges that Pitchford "breached his fiduciary duties by exploiting Gearbox employees and property to fund Pitchford’s private cravings," and one portion of the suit makes two sensational accusations about Pitchford's behavior: that he accidentally left a selection of "underage" pornography on a USB stick at a restaurant, and that he used his company's money to host parties where "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Pitchford."

              How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?

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              • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                simonced@lemmy.ml
                wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:49 last edited by
                #128

                Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store.
                Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.

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                • S simonced@lemmy.ml
                  22 May 2025, 00:49

                  Also, let's not forget the new EULA regarding shift accountsAlso, he made his 'fans" wait while bl3 was only available on the epic store.
                  Fuck this dude, I am done with the franchise.

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                  ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:54 last edited by
                  #129

                  How is the game being available make people wait? Did PC get the release before consoles?

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                  • X xiii@lemmy.world
                    21 May 2025, 21:41

                    While working on Borderlands 3, the team was severely underpaid. People started quitting, so Randy promised them an “unprecedented company profit-sharing bonus model.” That never got paid—he blamed “higher-than-anticipated development costs and sales not meeting projections.”
                    Borderlands 3 went GOTY, a few dozens millions copies sold. Randy secured a $12M executive bonus for himself.
                    When staff expressed dissatisfaction, Pitchford told them they were free to quit. This was in the middle of the pandemic, and the job market was absolute crap.

                    https://mcvuk.com/business-news/borderlands-3-developer-gearbox-accused-of-reneging-on-staff-bonuses/

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                    jigglysackles@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 00:58 last edited by
                    #130

                    I've not heard a single good thing about him. He's just a toolbag through and through.

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                    • A andros_rex@lemmy.world
                      22 May 2025, 00:46

                      Remember how Randy Pitchford funneled money that was supposed to go to Aliens: Colonial Marines into Borderlands 2 (and Duke Nukem Forever lol)

                      Callender's suit alleges that Pitchford "breached his fiduciary duties by exploiting Gearbox employees and property to fund Pitchford’s private cravings," and one portion of the suit makes two sensational accusations about Pitchford's behavior: that he accidentally left a selection of "underage" pornography on a USB stick at a restaurant, and that he used his company's money to host parties where "adult men have reportedly exposed themselves to minors, to the amusement of Pitchford."

                      How the fuck do you leave a USB stick full of child abuse material at a fucking Medieval Times and get away with it?

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                      shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 01:38 last edited by
                      #131

                      Laws only apply to us poors.

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                      • T turboharbinger@feddit.cl
                        22 May 2025, 00:25

                        I knew Randy would fuck up the game somehow.

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                        voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 02:00 last edited by voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
                        #132

                        Seriously, why do they let him talk? The man is a walking PR disaster.

                        Then again, we should all be asking how the hell he's not in jail for possession of child porn, so I guess this is a pretty minor thing in comparison.

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                        • Q quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
                          22 May 2025, 00:29

                          In today's dollars, my local video game store in 1991 was selling Wizardry for the NES for $141.

                          Fuck, the average AAA Atari 2600 game was $99 in today's dollars. Games like Pitfall and Pac-Man.

                          Just some perspective. I'm going to go yell at a cloud or something, now.

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                          voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 02:05 last edited by
                          #133

                          I'm actually OK with games costing a bit more to sell if they cost a lot to make; god knows, the devs deserve to get paid properly. But, one, that money won't actually make it to the devs, and two, any time Randy Pitchford is for something it's really hard not to automatically be against it, on the assumption that he's so consistently wrong about everything, and just such an unbelievable piece of shit, that just assuming he's in the wrong is the safest bet.

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                          • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
                            22 May 2025, 00:54

                            How is the game being available make people wait? Did PC get the release before consoles?

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                            simonced@lemmy.ml
                            wrote on 22 May 2025, 04:34 last edited by
                            #134

                            Steam customers are out of the loop.
                            We could access the game through epic store, but it's a separate account, and not everybody has/want one. Hence the wait to release on Steam.

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                            • A andros_rex@lemmy.world
                              22 May 2025, 00:44

                              Atari 2600 Pac Man is shit lol

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                              quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
                              wrote on 22 May 2025, 04:47 last edited by
                              #135

                              Yet I played it so much I can hear it in my head right now.

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                              • Q quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
                                22 May 2025, 04:47

                                Yet I played it so much I can hear it in my head right now.

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                                bobo@lemmy.world
                                wrote on 22 May 2025, 04:59 last edited by
                                #136

                                bunk bunk ba-bunk bunk! Koik-doik! Koik-doik!

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                                • J joel_feila@lemmy.world
                                  21 May 2025, 23:59

                                  And my way is, wait a few years for the deluxe edition to come out on sale.

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                                  dragonbringerx@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on 22 May 2025, 05:11 last edited by
                                  #137

                                  Shit, I waited until BL3 was free on PSN, and I'll get around to it someday.

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                                  • S shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
                                    22 May 2025, 01:38

                                    Laws only apply to us poors.

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                                    dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
                                    wrote on 22 May 2025, 05:28 last edited by
                                    #138

                                    Weinstein? Diddy? Epstein?

                                    I think the more apt description would be that when you’re got something that makes other people money, then you will be protected. When that ends you’re fair game.

                                    I also agree that the more money you have the better defence you can get, but I don’t believe laws only apply to the poor. That’s hyperbole.

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                                    • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
                                      22 May 2025, 00:54

                                      How is the game being available make people wait? Did PC get the release before consoles?

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                                      little8lost@lemmy.world
                                      wrote on 22 May 2025, 05:45 last edited by
                                      #139

                                      For small indies it makes sense to publish on the pc epic game store a year earlier to get fundet for simply releasing the game there earlier.
                                      A lot of smaller indies used that time as a kind of early access and got later super popular on steam, the main pc game store.

                                      But for a big studio to do something like this is scummy
                                      They already have a playerbase and a big budget
                                      I dont even know if payment was involved but there is no other reason i can think of that explains this

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                                        elkot@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on 22 May 2025, 05:50 last edited by
                                        #140

                                        I won't be buying any game that costs $80 not when I have a mountain of games in my Steam Library, many of which are getting played thanks to the Steam Deck and if that's not enough I have Game Pass too so why the hell would I even consider paying $80

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                                          finitebanjo@lemmy.world
                                          wrote on 22 May 2025, 05:51 last edited by
                                          #141

                                          Listen, I unironically love being woke. Accessibility for impairments? Human rights? Equity? Regulations standing in the way of greed? Overrepresentation of minority demographics? Fuck yes to all of that shit. Hell's Yeah.

                                          But the direction of these games have been poor for a lot of reasons. It doesn't feel woke, really, it feels like they want us to believe they aren't Handsome Jack's corporate studio goons like they are.

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