The fuck are we helping cops for?

Because the coppers have a vigilante system and pay me for fucking these specific groups of gangers and criminals up. And as Vespasian said: money doesn't stink.

It’s just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier

How do you know if you haven't played it?

In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to "bethesda jank" where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.

It got better over time, until just before the "big patch" came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).

Honestly i prefer, pre-"big patch" but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.

So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it's actually pretty good.

An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it's actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).

TBC I'm not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.

None of what you've just said connects back to your previous comment in the slightest. You started by saying that they cut too much from the TTRPG and that the world was too shallow, and then when I asked you to elaborate you just went on about augmentation systems.

At this point I'm not convinced you actually know what it is that you don't like about it.

cyberpunk has nothing to do with starfield.

largely seamless world, fun combat, hand crafted locations, good writing, good story, good and memorable characters, engaging dialogs, multiple ways to finish quests, cool vehicles, and on and on...

oh and forget forcing the player to fast travel everywhere but traveling around in cyberpunk is actually fun so i pretty much never used it in the game despite having the option.

and it looks like no one directed any part of starfield, it's literally the same as oblivion in terms of how every encounter and dialog unfolds, while starfield actually has direction and variety, well acted and performance captured interactive scenes. here's a good comparison of two similar quests involving a trade with shady people. just compare how the lines are delivered, how dynamic the scenes are, what happens when threats are involved, whether the scenes have any development, what you can see when the boxes are opened, literally everything.

You won't get Keanu. You'll get trump

hell yeah

What? The cybernetic system is not a mechanic?

I really enjoyed it and didn't experience any bugs as I waited for it to be sorted. It was also one of the rare games that held my attention long enough to finish, so that's probably why I think highly of it. Love that I'm being downvoted! I'll know not to bother contributing my opinion next time.

Just looking up what 'preproduction' actually means : They are in the planning stages, but they haven't started 'making' the game yet. Cyberpunk (1) development took four years.

You can start any time, for example ignore the news?

I love how you've personally taken offense to everyone shitting on your precious cyberpunk in this thread. It was broken trash in 2020 and it's only slightly less trash in 2025 bud. Sorry you have poor taste.

Let's hope they learned how to properly pace development and to handle a launch this time around.

What I take offense to is incel neckbeards coming into a thread and shitting on everyone who likes something they don’t.

incel neckbeards

What a blisteringly stupid thing to say, considering I'm a woman.

Oh, sorry for misgendering you then. I meant to say femcel neckbeard.

That's a wild to me that you'd defend blatant greed, but to each their own I guess.

Nobody here has done that, and that's such a piss-poor attempt at a straw man that you frankly should be ashamed of even trying it.

Spicy take: I hope they dump 2077's engine and go Unreal.

I recently followed this guide to try and set up "optimized" path tracing (no raster lighting, with everything raytraced) in 2077, and on my lowly RTX 3090 it runs like cold molasses. Not a chance. Raster + RT reflections is all I can manage, and it looks... good.

Meanwhile, I've also been playing Satisfactory (an Unreal Engine game from a comparatively microscopic studio), and holy moly. Unreal Engine's dynamic lighting looks scary good. Like, I get light bounces and reflections and everything, and it runs at like quadruple the FPS in hilariously complex areas, again, with a fraction of the dev effort.

Cryengine in KCD2 is rather sick as well, though probably less tuned for urban landscapes.

...So why don't they save a few years and many millions, and just go with one of those instead of poorly reinventing the wheel?