Me here just waiting to also not play the next one.

It's just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier.
Make me a game that doesn't release looking like it's a beta release. Then I may be interested.

It absolutley does.
Also cyberpunk actually gives you a lot of freedom on how you aproach combat.
Can you play it as mindless shooter. Yup . But you can also play deus ex like that and no one calls it a shitty first person shooter ( even tho thats technicaly the easiest way to finish the game ).
And as far as the world and story is concerned its equisite.
As far as whetewer its an RPG or not. If mass effect is an RPG than so is cyberpunk i think . Very subjective thing in general . Definietly not a hill im willing to die on.

You won't play cyberpunk cause it released in a poor state? Its a different game now.

lol, buy?

Played until I was helping the cops and symping for corpo life. Aren't we supposed to be punks off the street? The fuck are we helping cops for? CDPR can't write.

TLDR: UE5 can be optimized but Unreal also turned it into a bit of a tech demo which can be counter productive at times.

The fuck are we helping cops for?

Because the coppers have a vigilante system and pay me for fucking these specific groups of gangers and criminals up. And as Vespasian said: money doesn't stink.

It’s just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier

How do you know if you haven't played it?

In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to "bethesda jank" where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.

It got better over time, until just before the "big patch" came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).

Honestly i prefer, pre-"big patch" but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.

So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it's actually pretty good.

An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it's actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).

TBC I'm not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.

None of what you've just said connects back to your previous comment in the slightest. You started by saying that they cut too much from the TTRPG and that the world was too shallow, and then when I asked you to elaborate you just went on about augmentation systems.

At this point I'm not convinced you actually know what it is that you don't like about it.

cyberpunk has nothing to do with starfield.

largely seamless world, fun combat, hand crafted locations, good writing, good story, good and memorable characters, engaging dialogs, multiple ways to finish quests, cool vehicles, and on and on...

oh and forget forcing the player to fast travel everywhere but traveling around in cyberpunk is actually fun so i pretty much never used it in the game despite having the option.

and it looks like no one directed any part of starfield, it's literally the same as oblivion in terms of how every encounter and dialog unfolds, while starfield actually has direction and variety, well acted and performance captured interactive scenes. here's a good comparison of two similar quests involving a trade with shady people. just compare how the lines are delivered, how dynamic the scenes are, what happens when threats are involved, whether the scenes have any development, what you can see when the boxes are opened, literally everything.

You won't get Keanu. You'll get trump

hell yeah

What? The cybernetic system is not a mechanic?

I really enjoyed it and didn't experience any bugs as I waited for it to be sorted. It was also one of the rare games that held my attention long enough to finish, so that's probably why I think highly of it. Love that I'm being downvoted! I'll know not to bother contributing my opinion next time.

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Just looking up what 'preproduction' actually means : They are in the planning stages, but they haven't started 'making' the game yet. Cyberpunk (1) development took four years.

You can start any time, for example ignore the news?

I love how you've personally taken offense to everyone shitting on your precious cyberpunk in this thread. It was broken trash in 2020 and it's only slightly less trash in 2025 bud. Sorry you have poor taste.

Let's hope they learned how to properly pace development and to handle a launch this time around.