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Cyberpunk 2 is now in preproduction, CD Projekt says

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  • Q [email protected]

    Every major Unreal Engine upgrade sucks for the first few years. Eventually it'll get optimized (the source is available and studios regularly contribute to it) or the documentation will start pointing out pitfalls and ways to increase performance. We'll just have to suffer through a deluge of chip-melting games until then.

    I wish there was more competition in the high-end game engine scene. Unreal tries to do all of the things all of the time and suffers for it, Unity requires tuning to look good and its management keeps shooting itself in the foot, Godot isn't there yet and has a bare-bones approach that requires devs to implement nearly everything from scratch, and the dozens of in-house engines that have been open-sourced lack the community or documentation quality to foster significant uptake.

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    I want more cel-shaded games. And more engines mean more unique experiences. I hate when every game starts to handle the same way.

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    • gerryflap@feddit.nlG [email protected]

      What? The launch was definitely botched, but after all the updates it's now a great game. Personally one of my favorites. Honestly I'm not sure if there are many studios who would do a better job than CDPR in making such a large scale Cyberpunk game.

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      It still has some rough edges, even after the major updates. I liked the Panam ending a lot, arguably one of my favorite game endings ever, but the police spawn and logic is still terrible compared to the likes of older GTA games, and the cars still feel gross to drive. Just Cause 2 had better vehicle handling, and that's a title from 2010.

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      • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com_ [email protected]

        Art is subjective. You don’t get to speak for anyone but yourself. Half the world thinks what you like is shit, but go on about how you know what’s really good.

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        I know greed when I see it. I know cut content when I see it. A good DLC doesn't include stuff that should've been in the game.

        CDPR did good with the witcher series years ago. But after cyberpunk they showed how disgusting they can be. They don't deserve money. Have fun and enjoy the game but don't defend it, there's no point

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        • S [email protected]

          I know greed when I see it. I know cut content when I see it. A good DLC doesn't include stuff that should've been in the game.

          CDPR did good with the witcher series years ago. But after cyberpunk they showed how disgusting they can be. They don't deserve money. Have fun and enjoy the game but don't defend it, there's no point

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          I'll defend it if I want. Neither you nor anyone else gets to decide anything for me, so fuck out of here with that attitude. There's a reason you and the people who share your opinion are getting downvoted so much in this thread. That reason is people think your opinion is shit.

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          • 0 [email protected]

            Well I'm on my fifth playthrough and have encountered game-breaking bugs maybe 3 times 🙂

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            I play on PC, and the only bug I've ever experianced was one time an NPC walked into the sidewalk. Other than that, it's been smooth sailing.

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            • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              It's going to be in a new city.

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              It's going to feature a new city as a second location. Night City will still be there in some way, as the story of Cyberpunk is mostly about Night City. If it didn't have Night City, it would still be cyberpunk, but it wouldn't be Cyberpunk.

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                Good. We need more dicks in video games.

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                  Good. We need more dicks in video games.

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                  mount your friends

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                  • hal_5700x@sh.itjust.worksH [email protected]

                    Hopely, this game's launch is better then the first one.

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                    Shouldn't be hard unless the bar fell into an open hole in the ground

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Yeach . It had rocky start but damm disregarding bugs the praises were more than deserved. Literally the best action RPG that exists.

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                      A rocky start? It got removed from the game stores and full refunds given. That's not a simple "rocky start" the released a pre alpha at full price.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        Nice, only 12 more years to go.

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                        Me here just waiting to also not play the next one.

                        It's just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier.
                        Make me a game that doesn't release looking like it's a beta release. Then I may be interested.

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                          Literally the best action RPG that exists.

                          Spoken like someone that has played about four or five video games in their entire life. It's not even an RPG. It's a shitty first person shooter with pointless skill trees tacked on. Even if you were to classify it as an action RPG, it doesn't crack the top 20.

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                          It absolutley does.
                          Also cyberpunk actually gives you a lot of freedom on how you aproach combat.
                          Can you play it as mindless shooter. Yup . But you can also play deus ex like that and no one calls it a shitty first person shooter ( even tho thats technicaly the easiest way to finish the game ).
                          And as far as the world and story is concerned its equisite.
                          As far as whetewer its an RPG or not. If mass effect is an RPG than so is cyberpunk i think . Very subjective thing in general . Definietly not a hill im willing to die on.

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                          • J [email protected]

                            Me here just waiting to also not play the next one.

                            It's just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier.
                            Make me a game that doesn't release looking like it's a beta release. Then I may be interested.

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                            You won't play cyberpunk cause it released in a poor state? Its a different game now.

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                            • I [email protected]

                              At least everyone knows not to trust this dev anymore and won’t buy the game until it’s actually finished

                              Sad this likely means the first one never gets finished

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                              lol, buy?

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                              • A [email protected]

                                I started the first one last month and encountered 3 game-breaking-reload-required bugs within the first hour. It still isn’t fixed after all these years.

                                Edit: I don’t understand why I’m being downvoted for simply sharing my playthrough experience?

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                                Played until I was helping the cops and symping for corpo life. Aren't we supposed to be punks off the street? The fuck are we helping cops for? CDPR can't write.

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                                  The worst i hear is its games tend to be kinda unoptimized, but how much of that is the devs not being given enough time to optimize the game before release and how much is just the engine being bad idk. I used UE4 a lot and it was pretty smooth sailing for the most part, but maybe 5 got worse in some aspects.

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                                  TLDR: UE5 can be optimized but Unreal also turned it into a bit of a tech demo which can be counter productive at times.

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                                  • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                    Played until I was helping the cops and symping for corpo life. Aren't we supposed to be punks off the street? The fuck are we helping cops for? CDPR can't write.

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                                    The fuck are we helping cops for?

                                    Because the coppers have a vigilante system and pay me for fucking these specific groups of gangers and criminals up. And as Vespasian said: money doesn't stink.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      Me here just waiting to also not play the next one.

                                      It's just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier.
                                      Make me a game that doesn't release looking like it's a beta release. Then I may be interested.

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                                      It’s just another flavor of starfield but somehow so much more shittier

                                      How do you know if you haven't played it?

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                                        You won't play cyberpunk cause it released in a poor state? Its a different game now.

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                                        In fairness is was full jank on release, the initial patches got it to "bethesda jank" where it was fun with the bugs (provided you could actually play it) but still bug ridden.

                                        It got better over time, until just before the "big patch" came in that fully changed how it all worked skills and mechanics wise (gameplay was mostly the same).

                                        Honestly i prefer, pre-"big patch" but the fully patched game is considerably smoother and more coherent.

                                        So, aside from the years of post release development, completely missing features that are never actually coming (looking at you full transit system), it's actually pretty good.

                                        An absolutely dogshit way of releasing a game, but if you waited for a few years and bought it on discount , it's actually a really fun game (provided you like that sort of thing).

                                        TBC I'm not justifying anything about this process , it was a major fuckup and many other dev houses would have gone under from the weight of how badly they fucked it up, but they had that witcher money, so.

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                                        • V [email protected]

                                          Go play Deus Ex in the same genre, or some cyberpunk based CRPGs. Those games lots of mechanics that play into the game, DXMD's Augment system wipes it's ass with Cyberpunk's Chrome for one.

                                          Also it would help if they didn't rush the story so much, it was a product of crunch and it shows. You can fix the bugs but you can't fix fundamental problems with pacing

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                                          None of what you've just said connects back to your previous comment in the slightest. You started by saying that they cut too much from the TTRPG and that the world was too shallow, and then when I asked you to elaborate you just went on about augmentation systems.

                                          At this point I'm not convinced you actually know what it is that you don't like about it.

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