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  • S [email protected]

    you genuinely don't know what colonialism is

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    #209

    Hey, let's compare definitions.
    In my books, it's when a big country tries to take some land, usually rich in resources, murder those parts of local population who disagrees with that, and make the rest into a workforce, taking all the resources into metropolis.
    Now, given that, what parts of Russian relationships with Crimea, Donbass, and Lugansk regions don't fit this definition? Well, apart from the fact that Russian military force is a military farce and they fail at all their plans except one when they murder local population.
    Or do you think attempted colonialism doesn't count? Because it's not for the lack of trying, you know

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    • grapho@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

      Colonialism is when a country I don't like does a thing I don't like somewhere else. Imperialism is when any country attacks any other.

      There, who needs books when it's that simple, tankies?

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      #210

      It's only Colonialism if it's from Colonial region of the world, otherwise it's sparkling war with the exploitative and/or genocidal purposes, and then it's OK if it's the country that I like. You wouldn't understand, lib.

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      • daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

        Oh I know. A state religion is exactly what isreal has and what you are claiming is an ethnostate.

        Zion means jerusalem, the holy land of the jews, which they claim is ordained to them by god.

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        Your homework assignment is to find someone, literally any one person, from anywhere, of any political persuasion, who agrees with the statement "Iran is just as Zionist as Israel." Literally anyone. I don't care if it's your mom.

        When you fail to do so, come back and say, "I'm sorry, @[email protected], you were right and I was wrong, I clearly don't understand this situation, but I would like to learn more about it from you."

        If you reply to this comment with anything other than, "I did find someone who agrees with that statement" or the thing I just said, I will block you.

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        • B [email protected]

          You are now a liberal if you don't think every Ukrainian is a fascist.

          antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #212

          Literally meaningless when you subtract the dripping attitude. Just a fucking moron making themselves feel smart alone in the shower.

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          • T [email protected]

            The Russian minority wasn't being genocided, and at most they could be ethnically cleansed considering Russia has it's own nuclear-armed ethnostate that's the largest in the world. Genocide is an international issue, what was not even an ethnic cleansing is a domestic issue.

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            #213

            God you're fucking shameless. Piece of shit.

            Russia is the world's largest ethnostate because you decided the word sounds bad and if it's bad people you can just vamp?

            But 'meh' ethnic cleansing? Leave it to the people doing it?

            Eat a fucking knife, nazi.

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            • objection@lemmy.mlO [email protected]

              Your homework assignment is to find someone, literally any one person, from anywhere, of any political persuasion, who agrees with the statement "Iran is just as Zionist as Israel." Literally anyone. I don't care if it's your mom.

              When you fail to do so, come back and say, "I'm sorry, @[email protected], you were right and I was wrong, I clearly don't understand this situation, but I would like to learn more about it from you."

              If you reply to this comment with anything other than, "I did find someone who agrees with that statement" or the thing I just said, I will block you.

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              #214

              Bye

              Edit:

              Sorry, I will respond, honestly.

              You're right, there are differences between Iran and Isreal and im not versed enough to know them. So, yeah, and if you think that is what I was trying to communicate then we lost track somewhere.

              Our contention seems to be:

              You - isreal should be taken down militarily because they are a danger to the people around them

              Me - there is no good way to end isreals occupation that wont result in more human suffering

              I will concede that if isreal were to be brought down by some act of god youre not going to see me shedding many tears.

              Is there anything you will concede?

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              • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                Literally meaningless when you subtract the dripping attitude. Just a fucking moron making themselves feel smart alone in the shower.

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                #215

                Do you have any arguments for all ukrainians being fascista russians speaking a dialect and not a language or are you just angry?

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                • N [email protected]

                  It's only Colonialism if it's from Colonial region of the world, otherwise it's sparkling war with the exploitative and/or genocidal purposes, and then it's OK if it's the country that I like. You wouldn't understand, lib.

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                  #216

                  It's real cute how you can just infer the genocidal and exploitative purposes when it's an enemy of the US, but you're a Russian disinfo bot in the pocket of China when you point out at the many examples of US proxies going "We think they're lower than animals and we're literally gonna exterminate them and their children"

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                  • daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                    Bye

                    Edit:

                    Sorry, I will respond, honestly.

                    You're right, there are differences between Iran and Isreal and im not versed enough to know them. So, yeah, and if you think that is what I was trying to communicate then we lost track somewhere.

                    Our contention seems to be:

                    You - isreal should be taken down militarily because they are a danger to the people around them

                    Me - there is no good way to end isreals occupation that wont result in more human suffering

                    I will concede that if isreal were to be brought down by some act of god youre not going to see me shedding many tears.

                    Is there anything you will concede?

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                    #217

                    I will concede that if your assumption that the military defeat of Israel would necessarily mean the deaths of millions of Jewish civilians, then you might have a point. Although, it isn't true, and you don't.

                    I'll also concede not blocking you, at least for now. But I have no interest in continuing this conversation, regardless.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      madlibs is such a good way of phrasing it, they learn some phrases with a set of conditions for when to use it like and then simply insert keywords. Like an akinator of epic clapbacks.

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                      #218

                      To be fair, it’s a winning strategy on Reddit and almost every other social media platform in the imperial core.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Do you have any arguments for all ukrainians being fascista russians speaking a dialect and not a language or are you just angry?

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                        #219

                        You can't even write a coherent sentence and you want me to respond to your incoherent smarmy shit.

                        What premise are you asking me to defend as if it's my own opinion?

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                        • antioutsideaktion@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                          You can't even write a coherent sentence and you want me to respond to your incoherent smarmy shit.

                          What premise are you asking me to defend as if it's my own opinion?

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                          #220

                          Brother.

                          This thread began with the hypothesis that there are no Ukrainians in Ukraine and that all Ukrainians are just fascist Russians elevating a "Dialect" to a language because they hate communism.

                          To my knowledge, Ukrainian split from old Ruthenian in the 13th and was acknowledged as its own language in the 1840s, way before any communist states arose in Russia or the Ukraine.

                          Alexander II. even outlawed the language in Ukraine.

                          So, enlightened person, tell me what part of this is just "librul smorm".

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                          • B [email protected]

                            Brother.

                            This thread began with the hypothesis that there are no Ukrainians in Ukraine and that all Ukrainians are just fascist Russians elevating a "Dialect" to a language because they hate communism.

                            To my knowledge, Ukrainian split from old Ruthenian in the 13th and was acknowledged as its own language in the 1840s, way before any communist states arose in Russia or the Ukraine.

                            Alexander II. even outlawed the language in Ukraine.

                            So, enlightened person, tell me what part of this is just "librul smorm".

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                            #221

                            Hey you want to try that again? I asked you what premise you were asking me to defend after your semi-literate scrawl and you replied with A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPIC THAN THE ONE YOU JUST SPOKE TO so I'm wondering if you had to restate would you come up with a third, completely unrelated topic.

                            You fucking incoherent fascist supporting idiot.

                            Your brain literally does not work properly. Are you being a dumb piece of shit who can't argue without putting words in my mouth by pretending I said all Ukrainians are nazis? Or are you being a dumb piece of shit who can't argue without putting words in my mouth by pretending I said Ukrainian is not a real language?

                            There are only two options. What kind of stupid piece of shit are you?

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Brother.

                              This thread began with the hypothesis that there are no Ukrainians in Ukraine and that all Ukrainians are just fascist Russians elevating a "Dialect" to a language because they hate communism.

                              To my knowledge, Ukrainian split from old Ruthenian in the 13th and was acknowledged as its own language in the 1840s, way before any communist states arose in Russia or the Ukraine.

                              Alexander II. even outlawed the language in Ukraine.

                              So, enlightened person, tell me what part of this is just "librul smorm".

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                              #222

                              answer please

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