Anyone sick of these new games requiring so much power to run?
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This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.Hell is Us requires a 5600 XT to play (from looking at its minimum requirements on Steam), you have a 6600 so you should be good (obviously not at 4k though).
Also seeing the whole 4k thing, the monitors might not have been a mistake, but they are probably an investment for the future at this point when budget friendly 4k cards are a thing, until then, you'll have to rely on upscaling from lower resolutions (if thats possible with tools built into the game) or just playing in a non-native resolution (1080p) for new games.
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This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.Remember when oblivion came out? Or crysis? They were so hard to run that they became meme benchmarks lol
And now that "gaming" is incredibly mainstream, the push to be more and more marketable by investors by pushing technology in graphics because that's what sells.
Graphics too hard to run or not, I just want good games. And all this priority on intense graphical fidelity doth not maketh for many resources for the rest of the game and often shows a priority on PROFIT over all else.
Not buying games, for any reason, including you can't play them, is probably the best and healthiest thing to happen to gaming since indie gaming...
So, go, play your 15 year old games. Enjoy what's actually fun. The world will be a better place for it.
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You were so lazy it sounds like you agree with the og comment, not disagree. In essence, I think your comment aligns with the one you are replying to.
(Calling u so lazy is a light hearted joke that joins into my point)
4:30AM 2.6.2025 BC (before coffee) morning me wrote that comment.
I honestly just glanced at and dreamt the comment I was replying to.
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Not defending anyone, but I don't think implementing raytracing is a cost-cutting measure.
Also, are there games that force you to enable raytracing (when a big performance hit). The ones I have played always allow you to disable it.
I think (one of) the real reasons behind some games being so poorly optimized is the developers using upscaling as a crutch when they shouldn't.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The newest Doom and Indiana Jones have mandatory raytracing.
And the reason for poor optimization is mostly publishers not giving the devs enough time and resources to optimize or just poor management.
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Remember when oblivion came out? Or crysis? They were so hard to run that they became meme benchmarks lol
And now that "gaming" is incredibly mainstream, the push to be more and more marketable by investors by pushing technology in graphics because that's what sells.
Graphics too hard to run or not, I just want good games. And all this priority on intense graphical fidelity doth not maketh for many resources for the rest of the game and often shows a priority on PROFIT over all else.
Not buying games, for any reason, including you can't play them, is probably the best and healthiest thing to happen to gaming since indie gaming...
So, go, play your 15 year old games. Enjoy what's actually fun. The world will be a better place for it.
God damn, I couldn't agree more. It's been a blast playing older games, not gonna lie. I just can't understand why I need to spend $700 plus on a GPU ONLY to be able to play something.
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Don’t worry - once you’ve upgraded everything the games are still the same yellow-markings-mean-climbable, branching-skill-tree, press-Y-to-Parry, level-gated-fetch-quests, enemies-drop-loot-that-is-not-as-good-as-what-you-already-have, collect-all-the-orbs nonsense your computer could already play.
Damn, that's another thing. All games are the same, but have different environments. That's why I get bored with them really quick.
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Dude can you link me to the ps3 tutorial or whatever software you used to get emulation running? I’ve got games, tried to rip them for the emulator or something, but still no joy. I am ze dumb
oh and the “newest’ games I’m playing are near mage (released last month 2d point and click adventure game) so check out the Indy scene or different genres like map porn (crusader kings 3 & Europa universalis), couch games, etc…Look up RPCS3. There are tons of videos about it. And for games, look up "PS3 roms" and you'll pull a ton of sites that have all kinds of PS3 games. I like a site called "nopaystation" because it has .pkg and .rap and those are almost always guaranteed to work and are better than getting a .zip then extracting it into an .iso the. Extracting that into a folder.
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This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.Games should be easier to run, with better modding tools. Simple as that, Morrowind with mods is still a fantastic time and it runs well on a Steam Deck, something we can carry around with us.
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Have you tried just setting the resolution to 1920x1080 or are you literally trying to run AAA games at 4K on a card that was targeting 1080p when it was released, 4 and a half years ago?
I didn't mention that in the op, but Indiana Jones was running like shit on 1080 low settings. The fucking game forces DLSS. This is where gaming heading, forced DLSS and forced garbage so we are forced to buy expensive shit
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Remember when oblivion came out? Or crysis? They were so hard to run that they became meme benchmarks lol
And now that "gaming" is incredibly mainstream, the push to be more and more marketable by investors by pushing technology in graphics because that's what sells.
Graphics too hard to run or not, I just want good games. And all this priority on intense graphical fidelity doth not maketh for many resources for the rest of the game and often shows a priority on PROFIT over all else.
Not buying games, for any reason, including you can't play them, is probably the best and healthiest thing to happen to gaming since indie gaming...
So, go, play your 15 year old games. Enjoy what's actually fun. The world will be a better place for it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Go back further back. It is like this ever since gaming on PC is a thing. Doom, Wing commander 3, Quake III, ...
You have to go back to when gaming was dominated by the Amiga and Atari ST to find a time when it hasn't been like this.
I'd say thanks to Indie games, it is actually much easier to have a pleasing gaming life on low specs nowadays.
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This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.I tend to play shit 2+ years old...
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There are new games?
In all serious, the indie scene is full of new games that don't require a new GPU to run. A Day of Maintenance and Ephipany City and Mouthwashing and Unsorted Horror and Cosmic Wheel of Sisterhood (to name the few specifically new games that I've played and really loved on my RX580, which is about 40% less powerful).
Thank you for mentioning these names. This is basically what I'm doing now, indie and emulation. It's all just for fun.
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God damn, I couldn't agree more. It's been a blast playing older games, not gonna lie. I just can't understand why I need to spend $700 plus on a GPU ONLY to be able to play something.
Because investors realized that gaming is lucrative and leads society. You think it's a coincidence that Valve created basically the first successful digital distribution platforms and now every entertainment medium followed their model? Do you think microprocessors need to be that good on phones for Web browsing? AI compute hardware came from gaming gpu technology. The software originally made for and tested on games.
But, like music publishers trying to push the newest and latest and greatest music on us, only to have you realize that "oh yeah, 80s music actually kicks ass" and "oh fuck, 50s music WAS neat" or if you have or when you do "holy shit classical is actually amazing and lasted for literally hundreds of years whereas current pop music is constantly only like 2 years old"...
...Like music in that way, old games don't just magically become irrelevant and bad, despite what pop culture may try to tell us. Compatibility may be the biggest issue, but a lot of old games are legitimately better than newer ones (a lot of old games were bad too). It's all the social and technical evolution of the medium, and once you start being able to look at it that way - once that perspective and vibe catches on a bit more - I think gaming will be healthier.
Don't spend 700 bucks. The game will still be there. Wait. Play fun things now that you can, and if when it's economically playable for you it's still fun, then it'll still be fun. There are far too many games right now to even seriously consider fomo for anything but the MOST socially important games, and those are few and far between, and usually very easy to run.
You're doing fine.
Don't look at how much 5090s cost in like Australia or some other countries.
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Okay I'm going to go against the grain, and will probably get downvoted to hell, but this is not new. This is PC gaming. This has always been PC gaming. Hot take - you don't need 4k@60fps to be able to have fun playing games.
New games require top of the line hardware (or hardware that doesn't even exist yet) for high-ultra settings. Always have, always will. (Hell, we had an entire meme about 'can it run crysis', a game that literally could only play on low-medium on even the highest level machines for a few years) Game makers want to make their games not just work now, but want them to look great in 5 years too. Unless you have shelled out over a grand this year for the absolute latest GPU, you should not expect any new game to run on great settings.
In fact, I do keep my PC fairly bleeding edge and I can't drive more than High settings on most games - and that's okay. Eventually I'll play them on Ultra, when hardware catches up. It's fine.
And as for low to mid level hardware I was there too - and that's just PC gaming friend. I played Borderlands and Left4Dead the year they came out on a very old Radeon card at 640x480 in windowed mode, medium settings, at about 40fps.
Again, this is just what PC gaming is. If you want crisp ultra graphics, you're gonna have to shell out the ultra payments. Otherwise, fine tuning low to medium payments, becoming okay with sub 60fps, this is all fairly normal.
Personally, when I upgrade I find great joy in going back and "rediscovering" some of the older games and playing them on ultra for the first time.
And honestly, most modern games still look great on medium or low if you just put the textures on high. And that usually only affects VRAM usage and not performance.
I usually buy my PCs with an expected lifetime of about 10 years. And I don't even buy the highest level components. Just enough to get High graphics at whatever is currently the most common resolution. After those ten years they usually can still play the newest releases at low settings while still looking better than ten year old games. You just have to play around with the settings a bit.
My Steam Deck is the only gaming PC I have that is actually struggling having new releases look good. But that was to be expected. And most of them still work if I tolerate abysmally low resolutions at 25 to 30 fps.
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You can't even shoot out light bulbs anymore.
In Jedi Knight 2 you couldn't use your lightsaber as a light source anymore. While Jedi Knight 1 was capable of doing that.
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I don't do much gaming these days, so my hardware isn't appropriate and this likely wasn't going to go anywhere anyways, but yesterday I had a quick thought whether I should buy Blue Prince and play it myself, before I watch someone else play it. And I kid you not, my first thought why I shouldn't buy it was "Nah, it's got 3D graphics, it's probably not going to run well".
I genuinely have no idea, if that even makes sense. The game uses cell-shaded graphics, so you probably could've implemented it on the PS1.
Well, except that it needs a fairly high resolution to be able to see some of the puzzle clues. And it's got soft lighting and whatnot. And the solo dev probably didn't spend their entire dev time optimizing for hardware as weak as mine.I just thought it was funny that we've been doing 3D for 3 decades and somehow it's still relevant for my judgement how a game will run. 🫠
100%. And this is my whole point. Why is it OUR problem not the devs problem? Why do I have to buy into expensive shit?
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I tend to play shit 2+ years old...
Ditto. Whenever it goes on sale for 75% off
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Ditto. Whenever it goes on sale for 75% off
With GOTY and all the "expansions"
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This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.hell is us is an extreme outlier when it comes to performance. and the rx 6600 isn't meant to run games at 4k period.
you can probably still play most of the games on steam at 60fps+ on medium settings. high if you play at 1440p instead.
yes there is a problem but I think you're over exaggerating a bit, especially considering you are playing at 4k. -
This is getting out of hand. The other day I saw the requirements for "Hell is Us" game and it's ridiculous. My RX6600 can't play anything anymore. I've downloaded several PS3 ROMs and now I'm playing old games. So much better than this insanity. This is probably what I'm going to be doing now, play old games.
Edit: I wanted to edit the post for more context and to vent/rant a little.
I don't want to say I made a mistake, but I buy everything used, and I have scored a good deal on two 27" 4k monitors from Facebook marketplace. Got both monitors for $120.
They're $800 on Amazon used. Great monitors and I love 4k. I also bought an RX6600 AMD GPU for $100 from Facebook. It was almost new. The owner upgraded and wanted to get rid of it. My whole build was very cheap compared to what I see some folks get (genuinely happy for those who can afford it. Life is too short. Enjoy it while you can).
I can't afford these high end GPUs, but now very few games work on low settings and I'd get something like 20 FPS max. My friend gave me access to his steam library and I wanted to play Indiana Jones the other day, and it was an "omfg, wtf is this horrible shit" moment.
I'm so sick of this shit!I don't regret buying any of these, but man it sucks that the games I want to play barely even work.
So, now I'm emulating and it's actually pretty awesome. I've missed out on so many games in my youth so now I'm just going to catch up on what I've missed out on. Everything works in 4k now and I'm getting my full 60FPS and I'm having so much fun.Hey man, I agree with you on principle but the fact is that you're trying to run new AAA games with an older card at 4K.
Time marches on, and graphics demands have changed. Newer cards are built differently and games are (albeit poorly) designed to utilize the new hardware.
6600 is a fine card but yeah, you're going to have to compromise somewhere. A lot of good advice here to tap into older games, or you can spend $180 and buy a good 1440p monitor and see if that opens up your options as well.
You're hermit crabbing into used parts on the cheap which is great, but if you're not willing to pay a pound of flesh for a new card then you're going to have to settle for reduced performance - it's that simple. Otherwise what's the point of making better hardware, if nothing takes advantage of it?
