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'No gay, no pay': The RuneScape community is absolutely mauling Jagex's new CEO over his decision to cancel new Pride Month events

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    And I was just about to resub after stopping in January to catch up on my game backlog.

    Back to the backlog I go!

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      Anti-woke go broke.

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      Not woke? Go broke.

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        Can something be good and also a marketing tactic?

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        Not while racism and sexism exists unfortunately

        Just look at bud light

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          There is a player run unofficial pride house party happening on the 21st

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            Wow, the way he phrased his reasoning is so undoubtedly cowardly too. He didn't even try to hide the fact that it's performative as fuck lol.

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              I'm pretty sure this happened because sooo many players complained about the event the last times. I remember boycotts and stuff.

              I'm not saying Jagex isn't bad, but this time it's on players.

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                Not while racism and sexism exists unfortunately

                Just look at bud light

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                I’m trying to understand your point, but I’m a little lost here.

                Do you mean the way the public reacted to their ad?

                Or the way they capitulated to that reaction?

                I mean: Yes racism and sexism are pervasive in our society, but using Ben and Jerry’s (operating under the same racism/sexism) as an example; they do heavy marketing tactics toward LGBTQ but they are also an ally.

                Does them utilizing that make them bad?

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                  I’m trying to understand your point, but I’m a little lost here.

                  Do you mean the way the public reacted to their ad?

                  Or the way they capitulated to that reaction?

                  I mean: Yes racism and sexism are pervasive in our society, but using Ben and Jerry’s (operating under the same racism/sexism) as an example; they do heavy marketing tactics toward LGBTQ but they are also an ally.

                  Does them utilizing that make them bad?

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                  Well, the example of bud light is they made their can rainbow color, while the LGBT community was like "hell yeah!" They lost almost all their hillbilly south customer base.

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                    Haha it rhymes!!!

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                      Canceled Pride? Well, I canceled my sub!

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                        Not woke? Go broke.

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                        Throw rocks at fascists.
                        Okay the rhyme needs some work

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                        • kruhmaster@sh.itjust.worksK [email protected]

                          Christmas aesthetics were designed by Coca-Cola.

                          That's why Santa and most decorations are red/white.

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                          Santa's Red suit was a staple, at least in American advertising, for decades before coca cola did it

                          https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-claus-that-refreshes/

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                            This is extra funny because the first time a pride event was added people were protesting and spamming "we pay no gay" seems the culture has shifted.

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                              Would a commercial with Jesus on the cross saying he is thirsty and having a Roman Soldier pass him an ice cold Coca Cola be better?

                              Yes. PLEASE put this on the air. I am begging someone to make this a reality. Also, full disclosure, I do enjoy watching the world burn over stupid shit. Christians losing their shit over THAT commercial would be comically delightful.

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                              Oddly I don’t think Christians would even be upset about that. You could have it directed by Mel Gibson. They would love it. Because it features their guy. Other than that, there’s no real concept of some sacred image or respectfulness.

                              It would work with Moses too. Replacement his sandals with some Nikes before he goes out for his walk in the desert. He’s still their guy too, since they have the Old Testament.

                              But try that with Mohammed or Vishnu, and there’s your war on Christmas.

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                                Anti-woke go broke.

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                                Go woke or go broke.

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                                  This is extra funny because the first time a pride event was added people were protesting and spamming "we pay no gay" seems the culture has shifted.

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                                  I think it's that the world has changed into having fractured multiple cultures.

                                  In the 80s/90s being gay was considered by general society to be an insult. If you're under 25, the concept of something being negative being called "gay" as the standard insult just sounds made up.

                                  But people who are 40 years old may remember being in school, and you got a D on a quiz. Your buddy might say "You got a D? That's gay."

                                  Had nothing to do with actual homosexuality. It's just that's what society was. Being gay wasn't accepted, and it was cool and trendy to hate on gays to the point that it wasn't questioned if you called anything bad "gay".

                                  It's impossible to place an exact date on when the culture changed, because it likely changed at different times for different regions. I assume California was the first to change.

                                  I first noticed the shift in pop culture around 2003. There was a russian pop singer duo/band called tatu. Terrible music, but they kissed in their one hit wonder music video.

                                  The reactions I saw on MTV were people saying they were brave for being openly gay. Whereas if it would have happened in the 80s, I'm sure they'd have gotten death threats.

                                  And I STILL see people who don't accept gay people.

                                  So society is now fractured on what popular belief is. Now it's more like several circles, who all have different views. As opposed to one giant unified viewpoint, with those not conforming left on the outside in the underground.

                                  Because that's just one topic. There's other people who are ok with gay people, but not ok with trans. So thats another circle. Now imagine every single viewpoint which has a counter viewpoint.

                                  Whereas in the 80s, something like 92% of the vote went towards reagan, and everybody conformed to the preapproved normal viewpoints. We don't do that anymore. We each find our own meaning of normal.

                                  Now me personally, I don't find giving a nazi salute to be normal. But you'll still find herds of people defending musk. You'll also find people like me who say fuck musk, and fuck any self identifying nazi. So, another example of how different people are now in different circles.

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                                    I'm pretty sure this happened because sooo many players complained about the event the last times. I remember boycotts and stuff.

                                    I'm not saying Jagex isn't bad, but this time it's on players.

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                                    Jagex never listens to the players when they should, so they dont get to hide behind the playerbase for this one.

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                                      I think it's that the world has changed into having fractured multiple cultures.

                                      In the 80s/90s being gay was considered by general society to be an insult. If you're under 25, the concept of something being negative being called "gay" as the standard insult just sounds made up.

                                      But people who are 40 years old may remember being in school, and you got a D on a quiz. Your buddy might say "You got a D? That's gay."

                                      Had nothing to do with actual homosexuality. It's just that's what society was. Being gay wasn't accepted, and it was cool and trendy to hate on gays to the point that it wasn't questioned if you called anything bad "gay".

                                      It's impossible to place an exact date on when the culture changed, because it likely changed at different times for different regions. I assume California was the first to change.

                                      I first noticed the shift in pop culture around 2003. There was a russian pop singer duo/band called tatu. Terrible music, but they kissed in their one hit wonder music video.

                                      The reactions I saw on MTV were people saying they were brave for being openly gay. Whereas if it would have happened in the 80s, I'm sure they'd have gotten death threats.

                                      And I STILL see people who don't accept gay people.

                                      So society is now fractured on what popular belief is. Now it's more like several circles, who all have different views. As opposed to one giant unified viewpoint, with those not conforming left on the outside in the underground.

                                      Because that's just one topic. There's other people who are ok with gay people, but not ok with trans. So thats another circle. Now imagine every single viewpoint which has a counter viewpoint.

                                      Whereas in the 80s, something like 92% of the vote went towards reagan, and everybody conformed to the preapproved normal viewpoints. We don't do that anymore. We each find our own meaning of normal.

                                      Now me personally, I don't find giving a nazi salute to be normal. But you'll still find herds of people defending musk. You'll also find people like me who say fuck musk, and fuck any self identifying nazi. So, another example of how different people are now in different circles.

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                                      Of course there's always being Nazi apologists and equally there's always been people who are just incapable of moving with the times. That's not a new thing that's always been the case.

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                                        Throw rocks at fascists.
                                        Okay the rhyme needs some work

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                                        Smite the Reich?

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                                          In my opinion companies shouldn't do anything about any month of anything. They often use it as a marketing tactic

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                                          Its a tradeoff, we know they only do things for the bottom line but having pridr celebrations did reinforce exactly what the pride movement wanted to push. My work isnt that bad tbh they have a committee that runs talks and discussions on equity and exclusion and the likes. The committee likely doesnt cost much, but they get to champion it and the people in that community feel welcomed and it does help breakdown barriers.

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