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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    I don't know why these companies think they can talk their way out of this. No one is buying your BS. Just STFU.

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    It's to give talking points to the politicians they paid for.

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      Anti-cheat is a necessary evil for competitive online games. No one wants to play a game against cheaters since they typically have an unfair advantage. If you can't combat cheating then you might as well not make the game since no one will want to play it. Fine by me since I don't care for such games but I could imagine people who like playing them might prefer to play against as few cheaters as possible. What are the alternatives?

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      Battlefield and cod have cheaters running rampant in their official servers despite using anti cheats. They could employ a team to monitor cheating reported by players. But clearly they just don't want to expend resources to combat that.

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          Cold Take has a counterargument video if anyone actually cares enough to take this seriously

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            Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

            When copyright is protected on a product that's no longer sold, less art is made.

            When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

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            • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

              I don't know why these companies think they can talk their way out of this. No one is buying your BS. Just STFU.

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              They can and they will just lobby commission or EU Parliament if needed.

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                "... curtail developer choice" - This from a bunch of people for whom the term 'executive meddling' was created.

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                Sounds like they just put together a bunch of meaningful sounding words. I know what they want to say though: "Noooo! But mah freedumbs! NOOOO 😭 "

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                  Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

                  When copyright is protected on a product that's no longer sold, less art is made.

                  When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

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                  This is the most level headed approach to IP I've seen. If you're not willing to use the property you forfeit it. It's a common contact for licensing rights for movies that forces a studio to make a movie or lose rights. That way people can't squat on a licence to prevent others using it.

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                    Minecraft has private servers (at least on Minecraft java) as well as their own server platform "Realms", also every client is also a server. Though the authentication system is a Microsoft account so that's likely to still be online well into the future

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                    Yup, I run a Minecraft server at home, and it's great. I'd love for more games to do the same.

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                      Yeah... The abstract (sorry, will read article a bit later) is bunch of nonsense to me (in respect to what is written, no offense to you):

                      • online experience commercially viable? The fuck they are talking about? Yeah, I know what is meant, but they would get fucking F in school for expressing thoughts in such a nonsensical way

                      • protections against illegal content would not exist on private servers? Really? Like only your company's servers can run that? What, you write them in machine code directly? Or is it all done manually? Anyhow, just release source code and it will be up to community to find a way to make it run

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                      I basically quoted the whole thing, the last bit wasn't really relevant. And yeah, it's pretty much just BS.

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                        You can't lose stuff you bought just because the publisher shut down the servers.

                        I mean that's exactly how it works right now. And depending on the exact wording of any laws passed as a result of this petition only the game itself or some or all micro transactions will have to be made available after official support ends.

                        Public servers will either sell micro transactions themselves to finance servers or make all in game content available to everyone for free. I can see publishers having a problem with that.

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                        that’s exactly how it works right now

                        Right, I'm explaining how Stop Killing Games would change things if adopted.

                        Public servers will either sell micro transactions themselves

                        That can certainly be restricted, since they're profiting off someone else's IP. Selling hosting is one thing, reselling assets in the game is another thing entirely and AFAIK would be a violation of copyright's fair use provisions.

                        If they're no longer profiting from a game, surely releasing access to gated content isn't an issue any more? It's not like they are losing anything. So I think unlocking cosmetics for everyone would be fine, but it's up to them. If they want to preserve the restriction, they can find a way that doesn't reauire ongoing costs, such as the ones I mentioned.

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                          Before you can do that, you need to determine whether someone is cheating. This is the purpose of anti-cheat software.

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                          Do you have spies behind you when playing cards too?

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                            Tbh when I read of it, being an open world driving game where you can just drive around a very large area, I kind of wanted it. Not as a game, but simply for driving around. MarioKart is too happy for that. I just want to get lost in thoughts while driving.

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                            Forza Horizon is good for that experience

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                            • couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                              This is the most level headed approach to IP I've seen. If you're not willing to use the property you forfeit it. It's a common contact for licensing rights for movies that forces a studio to make a movie or lose rights. That way people can't squat on a licence to prevent others using it.

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                              Sony has to make a Spiderman movie every few years even though DVDs of the old ones are still being sold, but Ubisoft can just delete games forever and they can never be played again.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                I don't know why these companies think they can talk their way out of this. No one is buying your BS. Just STFU.

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                                Do you mean
                                Buying = believing
                                Or
                                Buying = buying

                                Because I think the real problem here is that people actually are buying=buying and that's why they keep doing it.

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                                  Anti-murder laws are cuttailing my choice! What if I someday would like to make a choice to murder someone?

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                                    History taught us that corpos would literally burn the world for a few more bucks. And by history, I mean right now.

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                                    Businesses would bring back slavery if we let them.

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                                      Jesus you white knights need to calm down and let them respond for themselves.

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                                      Totally agree but the person they’re responding to implied they were some scrappy indie production. Ex33 (there are caveats/asterisks here but still) is a much better example. I think at its peak the whole team was like 40 people with hired hands.

                                      Jesus you white knights need to calm down and let them respond for themselves.

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                                        Which is doable, but is additional time and money.

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                                        Making games online is also additional time and money.

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                                          Totally agree but the person they’re responding to implied they were some scrappy indie production. Ex33 (there are caveats/asterisks here but still) is a much better example. I think at its peak the whole team was like 40 people with hired hands.

                                          Jesus you white knights need to calm down and let them respond for themselves.

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                                          …that’s not white knighting. I said they gave a bad example and provided a better one. Are you sure you know what that term means?

                                          Are you really that upset about the other conversation that you spent time scrolling through my comments to try and find the vaguest opportunity to try and use my own comment against me? Yeesh. Have a nice Monday dude.

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