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    Not to mention that studios like Larian have proven that it's entirely possible to make a blockbuster game without teams of 400 heads, changing direction and leadership every few years and laying off the people who made the product in the first place. They really seethed at that one, so many salty comments lol.

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    Show me on the doll where that comment said Larian is an indie developer. Saying that they lack corporate interference does not equal claiming that they're an indie team.

    There's this neat thing between indie devs and AAA corporate studios called AA. Big enough to fund larger projects than indie devs while being small enough to usually still be private companies that aren't beholden to investors and therefore can take larger risks than the AAA devs are allowed, letting them make the games that they would want to play. CD Projekt RED and FromSoft both fit into this category as well, though all 3 companies are getting big enough to potentially start being considered AAA studios.

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      Show me on the doll where that comment said Larian is an indie developer. Saying that they lack corporate interference does not equal claiming that they're an indie team.

      There's this neat thing between indie devs and AAA corporate studios called AA. Big enough to fund larger projects than indie devs while being small enough to usually still be private companies that aren't beholden to investors and therefore can take larger risks than the AAA devs are allowed, letting them make the games that they would want to play. CD Projekt RED and FromSoft both fit into this category as well, though all 3 companies are getting big enough to potentially start being considered AAA studios.

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      Jesus you white knights need to calm down and let them respond for themselves.

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        Developer choice, ha-ha, very funny. I am not familiar with the industry and still feel safe to bet most of them (edit: actual software developers making games) just want to get enough money for doing what they can do without too much stress/disgust and also most of them don't have a desire to see their work die just because some manager decided it is time to make some other games instead

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        I bet they're really pissed off with ubisoft right now. They basically started this whole movement by being so egregious with The Crew. Less than a month before they shut the servers down the game was still on sale for the full price that it had launched with.

        Granted it was shut down because it was the most mediocre game ever made but that still isn't an excuse.

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          When you work hard to create a consumer economy, the first rule is, don't piss off the consumers!

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            Uh, yeah, that's the point of all regulations. To make you not pick bad things.

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            • R [email protected]

              All games become subscription only in 3..2..

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              Subscribe to see how the countdown finishes!

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                From the mind of the one Free Man

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                  All games become subscription only in 3..2..

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                  Let them try. Most game will utterly fail with that approach and I would love to see that.

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                    Let's be real, open sourcing it isn't "hardly any work". All the code has to be reviewed to make sure they can legally release it, no third-party proprietary stuff.

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                    It's just one possible solution. They can just release a proprietary server application instead.

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                      I bet they're really pissed off with ubisoft right now. They basically started this whole movement by being so egregious with The Crew. Less than a month before they shut the servers down the game was still on sale for the full price that it had launched with.

                      Granted it was shut down because it was the most mediocre game ever made but that still isn't an excuse.

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                      Tbh when I read of it, being an open world driving game where you can just drive around a very large area, I kind of wanted it. Not as a game, but simply for driving around. MarioKart is too happy for that. I just want to get lost in thoughts while driving.

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                        Tbh when I read of it, being an open world driving game where you can just drive around a very large area, I kind of wanted it. Not as a game, but simply for driving around. MarioKart is too happy for that. I just want to get lost in thoughts while driving.

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                        Gran Turismo has similar stuff and is just better as a driving sim game.

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                          "... curtail developer choice" - This from a bunch of people for whom the term 'executive meddling' was created.

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                            I don't know why these companies think they can talk their way out of this. No one is buying your BS. Just STFU.

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                            It's to give talking points to the politicians they paid for.

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                              Anti-cheat is a necessary evil for competitive online games. No one wants to play a game against cheaters since they typically have an unfair advantage. If you can't combat cheating then you might as well not make the game since no one will want to play it. Fine by me since I don't care for such games but I could imagine people who like playing them might prefer to play against as few cheaters as possible. What are the alternatives?

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                              Battlefield and cod have cheaters running rampant in their official servers despite using anti cheats. They could employ a team to monitor cheating reported by players. But clearly they just don't want to expend resources to combat that.

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                                  Cold Take has a counterargument video if anyone actually cares enough to take this seriously

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                                    Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

                                    When copyright is protected on a product that's no longer sold, less art is made.

                                    When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

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                                      I don't know why these companies think they can talk their way out of this. No one is buying your BS. Just STFU.

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                                      They can and they will just lobby commission or EU Parliament if needed.

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                                        "... curtail developer choice" - This from a bunch of people for whom the term 'executive meddling' was created.

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                                        Sounds like they just put together a bunch of meaningful sounding words. I know what they want to say though: "Noooo! But mah freedumbs! NOOOO 😭 "

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                                          Copyright was invented so artists would be able to sell their art, and more art would be made.

                                          When copyright is protected on a product that's no longer sold, less art is made.

                                          When a copyright holder stops selling their art, copyright protections should immediately cease, and they should be responsible for copyright obligations - releasing the source code to the public. Use it or lose it!

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                                          This is the most level headed approach to IP I've seen. If you're not willing to use the property you forfeit it. It's a common contact for licensing rights for movies that forces a studio to make a movie or lose rights. That way people can't squat on a licence to prevent others using it.

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