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  2. Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ
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  • K [email protected]

    Disclosure: I have been sailing the seas for years, but...

    This logic does no justice to the objective financial harm being done to the creators/owners of valuable data/content/media.

    The original creator/owner is at a loss when data is copied. The intent of that data is to be copied for profit. Now that the data has been copied against the creator/owners will, they do not receive the profit from that copy.

    Yes yes the argument is made that the pirate would not have bought the copy anyways, but having free copies of the content available on the internet decreases the desire for people to obtain paid copies of the data. At the very least it gives people an option not to pay for the data, which is not what the creator wanted in creating it.
    They are entitled to fair compensation to their work.

    It is true that pirating is not directly theft, but it does definitely take away from the creator's/distributor's profit.

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    The original creator/owner is at a loss when data is copied.

    No, they're not. Not earning more is not the same as losing what you already have.

    Yes yes the argument is made that the pirate would not have bought the copy anyways,

    Yet studies have shown the opposite happens.

    content available on the internet decreases the desire for people to obtain paid copies

    Does your granny know what a torrent is?

    not to pay for the data, which is not what the creatordistributor wanted in creating it.

    There, FTFY

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      These days (at least in my country) I can't own movies, games and watch or play them at my will

      Companies like Netflix, Amazon are lending movies but not making them free for you. And then they wonder why piracy is rising

      Tbh for a student like me, piracy is the only option. If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't stealing

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        Eventually, yes. If everyone's needs are provided for, there is no requirement anymore to extract value from art, one can just make it and share it freely.

        Copyright should be abolished.

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        Disagree

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          Does it make people right or wrong? Well, in this case I think most people would understand.

          Most people sure. You though? You don't give a fuck why people do the things that they do, remember?

          And no, stealing bread for sustenance is in no way shape or form remotely comparable to downloading a movie or song.

          You are right, because in the case of stealing, the person has deprived the owner of that bread. If the hungry person was able to copy the bread and leave the original bread untouched for the owner to eat, it would literally harm no one. Even if that person owned the 'intellectual property' of that bread.

          If someone were to download my music blah blah blah

          You don't give a single fuck what someones reason is for doing what they do, yet you expect people to give fucks about what you value. It works both ways.

          It’s still piracy,

          No it isn't. Piracy is robbery or other serious acts of violence committed at sea. "Piracy" is a name some 'clever' lawyer or corporate exec coined to convince people that breaking copyright laws was equivalent to violent crime.

          and is still wrong.

          Who died and made you arbiter of 'right' and 'wrong'? Was it your 'lord'?

          Does this make me a hypocrite? I suppose it does.

          Of course it does, I thought that was understood. What it doesn't make is other people hypocrites for breaking your own personal moral code.

          I just don’t try to hide behind some sort of bullshit excuse.

          Who is trying to hide? I have not made a single excuse, and I wont because I don't believe it's wrong like you do.

          Just own up to it.

          Own up to what? To crossing Jessica's line in the sand? Sure, I'll own up to that. Fuck your line. I piss on your line.

          I’m not judging anyone.

          You clearly are lmfao. "What you are doing is wrong and nothing could possibly justify it, own up to it! QQ No judgment though" Fuck off with that.

          Just merely stating facts.

          Your own personal OPINION about the morality of copyright infringement is subjective. That isn't obvious?

          Am I wrong when I do it? Absolutely. I choose not to justify it.

          Sure, you happily break your own moral code and then judge others for doing something that is not against their moral code. Somehow you think the world revolves around you and that you are the arbiter of 'right and wrong'.

          I don't subscribe to your ignorant beliefs about copyright- so I'm not under the same obligation to obey them as you are.

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          Clearly this is not going anywhere. I completely disagree with your incessant attacks. Kindly fuck off.

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            ,You can say "I think intellectual property is a dumb idea" and I'd love to hear your arguments for that,

            Read the above comments then.

            but to act like it isn't real just because we came up with the idea relatively recently, is just asinine.

            Again, read my comments. I didn't say it wasn't real, I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

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            I said it has no basis in human culture or history.

            Not only is this incorrect, it would be meaningless even if it was accurate. What point are you even trying to make with this claim?

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              Clearly this is not going anywhere. I completely disagree with your incessant attacks. Kindly fuck off.

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              Of course you disagree, you completely lack the ability to even try understand anyone's point of view other than your own. It was never about trying to understand, you just want everyone else to feel as bad about themselves as you do for being a hypocritical asshole. Personally I don't do things that go against my ethics, so it won't be working on me. Kindly eat shit.

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                Of course you disagree, you completely lack the ability to even try understand anyone's point of view other than your own. It was never about trying to understand, you just want everyone else to feel as bad about themselves as you do for being a hypocritical asshole. Personally I don't do things that go against my ethics, so it won't be working on me. Kindly eat shit.

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                Why can’t you just fuck off? Seriously, leave me the fuck alone.

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                • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  Why can’t you just fuck off? Seriously, leave me the fuck alone.

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                  Maybe you shouldn't get on the internet acting like an asshole if you can't defend your position or handle people calling you out on it. Just a thought. Have a nice day.

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                    Maybe you shouldn't get on the internet acting like an asshole if you can't defend your position or handle people calling you out on it. Just a thought. Have a nice day.

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                    I don’t know how to say it any more clear. When someone says to you “leave me the fuck alone”, shut your fucking mouth and leave them alone. This is harassment at this point. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions, and your attacks on me are unwanted.

                    Leave me the fuck alone!

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                    • J [email protected]

                      Real pirates steal stuff. So-called digital "piracy" isn't piracy at all. This is just propaganda for the business model that the establishment is trying to hold onto.

                      It doesn't hurt IP holders to "pirate" their data. It is no difference to them whether you were to pirate it or to have never been born at all in the first place. Their profit is the exact same either way. Their business model is imaginary and they want to force it on everyone else.

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                      To be more precise: it is actually beneficial for big corporations if you pirate their media, as opposed to you having never been born. The sole act of you 'consuming' their media is positive for them, since you'll almost definitely see their logos (advertising to you), and you may spread the word to people who may pay for it (advertising by you).

                      As you said, it's all pretty much propaganda to brainwash us into trying to be 'good citizens' (obedient consumers).

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                      • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                        I don’t know how to say it any more clear. When someone says to you “leave me the fuck alone”, shut your fucking mouth and leave them alone. This is harassment at this point. I don’t give a fuck about your opinions, and your attacks on me are unwanted.

                        Leave me the fuck alone!

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                        You shut your mouth and leave me alone. If you shut your stupid pie hole and don't say anything to me, I won't say anything to you. Simply responding to someones post is not harassment. If you can't take it, don't dish it out you stupid, worthless, hypocritical asshole.

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                          You shut your mouth and leave me alone. If you shut your stupid pie hole and don't say anything to me, I won't say anything to you. Simply responding to someones post is not harassment. If you can't take it, don't dish it out you stupid, worthless, hypocritical asshole.

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                          Fuck you

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                          • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                            Fuck you

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                            Fuck you too. You come into a thread about Piracy on a message board about Piracy and start accusing Pirates of being hypocrites when it's clearly you who were being one and then act all surprised because someone called you on your bullshit, and now you are acting like you are some sort of victim. I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

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                              Fuck you too. You come into a thread about Piracy on a message board about Piracy and start accusing Pirates of being hypocrites when it's clearly you who were being one and then act all surprised because someone called you on your bullshit, and now you are acting like you are some sort of victim. I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.

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                              Leave me the fuck alone. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Stop harassing me. Fuck off.

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                              • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                Leave me the fuck alone. I don’t give a fuck what you have to say. Stop harassing me. Fuck off.

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                                sToP hArAsSiNg Me!

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                                  sToP hArAsSiNg Me!

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                                  Fuck you, leave me alone.

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                                    Fuck you, leave me alone.

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                                    fuCk YoU, lEaVe Me AlOnE, sToP hArAsSiNg Me! QQ

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                                      fuCk YoU, lEaVe Me AlOnE, sToP hArAsSiNg Me! QQ

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                                      Fuck you, leave me the fuck alone.

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                                      • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                        Fuck you, leave me the fuck alone.

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                                        Why do you keep harassing me? Fuck off! Leave me alone! I have no wish to hear from you!!! QQ

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                                          Why do you keep harassing me? Fuck off! Leave me alone! I have no wish to hear from you!!! QQ

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                                          So stop replying to me. Leave me alone.

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