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  3. Need explanation about Usenet

Need explanation about Usenet

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  • F [email protected]

    I found about Usenet and the sort of "hype" relative to it and I wonder some stuff.

    Maybe I'm a bit old school but is this process not against the spirit of piracy,

    • be generous to share
    • fight against censorship and DCMA takedown
    • work in a decentralized way

    Just wondered it, if someone wants to give his opinion

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    #21

    If no one server carries all the parts of a multi-part, is that a legal loophole?

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    • F [email protected]

      I found about Usenet and the sort of "hype" relative to it and I wonder some stuff.

      Maybe I'm a bit old school but is this process not against the spirit of piracy,

      • be generous to share
      • fight against censorship and DCMA takedown
      • work in a decentralized way

      Just wondered it, if someone wants to give his opinion

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      #22

      Usenet is older than torrenting. Significantly older. Even older than the WWW IIRC... Every few years the newer generation "discovers it" and realizes you can totally saturate your connection, even with relatively obscure things that would typically need a significant number of seeds to be able to do.

      And then it falls to the wayside again, because retention times kinda suck as no one wants to keep petabytes of data for ultra-long term. That and most of the indexers still alive today fucking suck.

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      • F [email protected]

        But what's your opinion about it, because don't you think it's opposed from the original torrenting piracy spirit?

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        #23

        As someone who used to download C64 games in the 1980s, from a BBS, trust me. Pirating existed decades before BitTorrent.

        Decades.

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        • F [email protected]

          I found about Usenet and the sort of "hype" relative to it and I wonder some stuff.

          Maybe I'm a bit old school but is this process not against the spirit of piracy,

          • be generous to share
          • fight against censorship and DCMA takedown
          • work in a decentralized way

          Just wondered it, if someone wants to give his opinion

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          wrote last edited by [email protected]
          #24

          usenet is decentralized at server level. In theory all the servers have the same content. Currently everything is obfuscated because of the take downs - so you need an indexer (the users upload the nzbs to that website. Think of a nzb like a .torrent file.)

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          • J [email protected]

            With modern Usenet there are about 8 or so backbones used for file sharing. Your Usenet provider/server would connect to one or more of these backbones.

            Its true Usenet is designed for federation, and in the 80s and 90s it was thousands of servers but today commercial Usenet providers just resell these 8 backbones.

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            There are more than just 8 separate usenet servers that are out there. Many might not carry binaries but that does not define a usenet server. https://top1000.anthologeek.net/top1000.current.txt

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            • zonklezoop@lemmy.zipZ [email protected]

              Sorry about the confusion. I meant Wikipedia.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

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              Aha got it, thank you! Fwiw, you sent me down a rabbit hole on fmhy so I'm learning lots today.

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                There are more than just 8 separate usenet servers that are out there. Many might not carry binaries but that does not define a usenet server. https://top1000.anthologeek.net/top1000.current.txt

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                #27

                I’m aware. You may have missed that I made that distinction in my first sentence.

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