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  • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
    5 Jun 2025, 13:31

    Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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    ulrich@feddit.org
    wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 15:54 last edited by
    #10

    I am constantly in awe of how many people want to watch this cringy dude ramble into a 1080p webcam mounted on the ceiling.

    A 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2025, 16:04
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    • U ulrich@feddit.org
      5 Jun 2025, 15:54

      I am constantly in awe of how many people want to watch this cringy dude ramble into a 1080p webcam mounted on the ceiling.

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      ampersandrew@lemmy.world
      wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 16:04 last edited by
      #11

      He's also in the crop of people who rage baited his audience with nonsense about Sweet Baby Inc.

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      • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
        5 Jun 2025, 13:31

        Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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        b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
        wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 16:33 last edited by
        #12

        Unless its something physical the days of pre-orders are dead.

        A 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2025, 16:43
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        • B b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
          5 Jun 2025, 16:33

          Unless its something physical the days of pre-orders are dead.

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          acosmichippo@lemmy.world
          wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 16:43 last edited by acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 May 2025, 19:19
          #13

          but now you get special armor that's relevant for a whole 10 minutes of game time.

          B 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2025, 17:49
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          • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
            5 Jun 2025, 13:31

            Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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            zerohora@lemmy.ml
            wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 17:30 last edited by
            #14

            Controversial opinion:

            Pre-ordering or not make no difference.

            You can search for it, in 2014 they have reports of a declining in pre-orders industry wide, they don't give numbers of pre-orders but even if you look at the ranking of sold games in online platforms people buy more days after the release than before or in day of the release.

            The boycott of pre-order kinda of worked, more people avoid pre-ordering than before and did that make any difference in the quality of game release? Hell no, they still release game with bugs, not finished with need of day one patches, the entire boycott made 0 impact on this shit.

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            • A acosmichippo@lemmy.world
              5 Jun 2025, 16:43

              but now you get special armor that's relevant for a whole 10 minutes of game time.

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              b0nk3rs@lemmy.world
              wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 17:49 last edited by b0nk3rs@lemmy.world 6 May 2025, 13:50
              #15

              I get to play 3 days early, bug test and pay you £80? Oh boy.... sign me up!

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              • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
                5 Jun 2025, 13:31

                Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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                mangopenguin@piefed.social
                wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 18:43 last edited by
                #16

                Don't preorder what? The title is missing something lol

                A 1 Reply Last reply 5 Jun 2025, 22:35
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                • M mangopenguin@piefed.social
                  5 Jun 2025, 18:43

                  Don't preorder what? The title is missing something lol

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                  acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                  wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 22:35 last edited by acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 May 2025, 18:36
                  #17

                  the principle applies to literally all games anyway, but the youtuber almost certainly did that to get clicks.

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                  • Z zerohora@lemmy.ml
                    5 Jun 2025, 17:30

                    Controversial opinion:

                    Pre-ordering or not make no difference.

                    You can search for it, in 2014 they have reports of a declining in pre-orders industry wide, they don't give numbers of pre-orders but even if you look at the ranking of sold games in online platforms people buy more days after the release than before or in day of the release.

                    The boycott of pre-order kinda of worked, more people avoid pre-ordering than before and did that make any difference in the quality of game release? Hell no, they still release game with bugs, not finished with need of day one patches, the entire boycott made 0 impact on this shit.

                    A This user is from outside of this forum
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                    acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                    wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 22:41 last edited by acosmichippo@lemmy.world 6 May 2025, 18:43
                    #18

                    i think you are misunderstanding the point of the no preorder movement. There never should have been an expectation for it to improve the Day 1 quality of game releases.

                    The main benefit of not preordering is consumer protection, so we can judge a game's quality after people who we trust have played and review it. That protection is worth more than whatever paltry nonsense publishers bundle with preorders.

                    Z 1 Reply Last reply 6 Jun 2025, 11:31
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                    • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
                      5 Jun 2025, 13:31

                      Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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                      capybara@lemm.ee
                      wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 23:53 last edited by
                      #19

                      Mutahar is a fucking moron.

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                      • D der_fossyler@feddit.org
                        5 Jun 2025, 13:31

                        Mutahar talks about Pre-Orders and the tech demo of The Witcher 4.

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                        lettywhiterock@lemmy.world
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 01:35 last edited by lettywhiterock@lemmy.world 6 May 2025, 21:36
                        #20

                        Who's this idiot and why does anything he say matter?

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                        • A amazingawesomator@lemmy.world
                          5 Jun 2025, 13:59

                          there isnt a limited stock; these are digital goods. there is no point in preordering.

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                          venator@lemmy.nz
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 06:54 last edited by
                          #21

                          What about horse armor though? 🤣

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                          • Z zerohora@lemmy.ml
                            5 Jun 2025, 17:30

                            Controversial opinion:

                            Pre-ordering or not make no difference.

                            You can search for it, in 2014 they have reports of a declining in pre-orders industry wide, they don't give numbers of pre-orders but even if you look at the ranking of sold games in online platforms people buy more days after the release than before or in day of the release.

                            The boycott of pre-order kinda of worked, more people avoid pre-ordering than before and did that make any difference in the quality of game release? Hell no, they still release game with bugs, not finished with need of day one patches, the entire boycott made 0 impact on this shit.

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                            regdog@lemmy.world
                            wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 09:36 last edited by
                            #22

                            The difference is that if you don't preorder a shitty game you won't hate yourself afterwards.

                            This effect is hard to quantify in numbers, but it is very much real.

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                            • A acosmichippo@lemmy.world
                              5 Jun 2025, 22:41

                              i think you are misunderstanding the point of the no preorder movement. There never should have been an expectation for it to improve the Day 1 quality of game releases.

                              The main benefit of not preordering is consumer protection, so we can judge a game's quality after people who we trust have played and review it. That protection is worth more than whatever paltry nonsense publishers bundle with preorders.

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                              zerohora@lemmy.ml
                              wrote on 6 Jun 2025, 11:31 last edited by
                              #23

                              i think you are misunderstanding the point of the no preorder movement. There never should have been an expectation for it to improve the Day 1 quality of game releases.

                              "it’s the culture surrounding preorders that is most responsible for the trail of broken and unfinished games that clutter the sales charts" Kotaku 2015

                              "By pre-ordering, you're also saying that you're ok with them cutting content, and that you don't mind the bugs and problems of the launch copies." Techraptor 2015

                              And many other articles or reddit discussions about the topic. That's what game journalist told the gamers and what many believe. The consumer protection was always the part that made sense, but they tried to push this idea of we could fix the broken release culture by not pre-ordering.

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