Plex has paywalled my server!
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What I see in these threads is the reverse. People insist that their pet solution is a panacea for every use case and when someone points out that it doesn't work for them they get downvotes and sarcasm. Making use of the best software for your use case is not equivalent to complicity in animal torture and environmental destruction. Nobody's being forced into constant pregnancy or having their calves taken away at birth because I feel like third party security patches for Windows will be a better option for me than fully swapping to a Linux distro.
But what is definitely happening is people stop reading pro-FOSS threads by the third rabid fanboy response and actually miss what could be a useful alternative.
If one limits their scope to the nutrients or taste of food on their plate then they wouldn't consider the well-being of other conscious creatures. Only considering system requirements to complete an activity misses out the freedom of the user(s), apparently.
It is a given that humans suffer due to the unjust power that proprietary software gives devs over their user's computing. Even the best dev does not the the willpower to always resist the temptation to use that power at the expense of the users. Many devs are oblivious they are doing anything wrong and many are malicious/anti-consumer.
There is also the impact it's use and promotion has on others - money/feedback/promotion given to the non-free projects are boons not given to the freedom-respecting projects. I am better off when others start to move away from proprietary software.
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It's an Unraid share on a local NAS, and the array is formatted as xfs.
Hmm, shared how? NFS?
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Again, you don't need a VPN if you follow my guide. Your reading comprehension is worse than mine, and I have ADHD. *sigh*
I’m not asking how to do it without a VPN, I’m asking how to do it WITH a VPN.
Not sure what’s hard to understand.
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I’m not asking how to do it without a VPN, I’m asking how to do it WITH a VPN.
Not sure what’s hard to understand.
And I'm telling you that you don't have to if you use a Debrid service.
But if you insist: all you gotta do set it up on the DNS level. Find out the IP needed to connect to your VPN via DNS, then change your TV's DNS servers to that IP in its internet connection settings.
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And I'm telling you that you don't have to if you use a Debrid service.
But if you insist: all you gotta do set it up on the DNS level. Find out the IP needed to connect to your VPN via DNS, then change your TV's DNS servers to that IP in its internet connection settings.
“…all you gotta do set it up on the DNS level. Find out the IP needed to connect to your VPN via DNS, then change your TV's DNS servers to that IP in its internet connection settings.”
To anyone reading this, this is not how a VPN works. A VPN (generally) requires a piece of software that gets installed on a client device and securely connects your device to a VPN server. Just pointing DNS entries to the IP address you use to connect to a VPN won’t actually connect you to the VPN.
If that worked, why would the major VPN providers have software based clients?
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“…all you gotta do set it up on the DNS level. Find out the IP needed to connect to your VPN via DNS, then change your TV's DNS servers to that IP in its internet connection settings.”
To anyone reading this, this is not how a VPN works. A VPN (generally) requires a piece of software that gets installed on a client device and securely connects your device to a VPN server. Just pointing DNS entries to the IP address you use to connect to a VPN won’t actually connect you to the VPN.
If that worked, why would the major VPN providers have software based clients?
I know but what you specifically want is not possible. But yet again it doesn't matter because you don't need a VPN when you use a Debrid service.
At this point you're just harassing me to be a pendantic asshole. So I'm going to do what's best for my mental health and dip out of this conversation. You are exhausting.
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Hmm, shared how? NFS?
I'm actually not 100% sure how to answer that. It's just a "share" configured through the Unraid UI, being accessed by a docker container running on the same machine (binhex's Jellyfin image.) I think that the "share" in this context is essentially just a mount point, but it's also (optionally) exposed as an SMB share externally.
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I can't speak for OP, but I self host lots of stuff, have literally dozens of services running, have an Ansible repo to manage it all and routi some stuff through a VPS, not to mention my day job has included managing services in one way or another for a long while. This is to say, I know what I'm doing. I couldn't setup Plex to work the way I wanted to, they expect it to run in a docker with network set to host mode, I couldn't find any way to tell Plex that my living room TV was in the same network, it just wouldn't accept any connections as local. I know I shot myself in the foot here by not letting it run with network on host mode, but I shouldn't have to, the port was exposed, I could reach it through the local network IP, but I wasn't able to stream any content locally.
If you don't set it to host, the docker container is in a different ip range than your tv. That's why it assumes it's not in the same network (which it isn't)
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what features are you missing?
security
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Thanks.
One of my pet peeves is when people immediately jump to whatever their fanboy program of choice is regardless of if it’s actually the right program to run in the situation given.
It's also always the Jellyfin fans that get emotional about this. Liking Plex is like a cardinal sin to them and I should be happy to migrate my entire viewership to a new solutions that requires them to install a vpn client on their device.
Every post I see here about Plex is some variation of Gotcha! or Schadenfreude where they expect everyone to say, "oh no, guess I'll pack it up and start fresh"
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Natively, you can't. Hackishly, you could put a small VPN capable router in front of it that would manage the connection.
That's according to Dr Internet, so I haven't tried it, but it seems very likely to be accurate.
So instead of a service that works, I now have:
- an inferior (and incomplete) client experience, unless I spend money
- an additional device to allow the client to connect to Jellyfin, because I can't safely expose it to the internet
- the responsibility to keep all that additional stuff working for myself and everyone of my friends/family members
sounds like a great deal
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The condescension in your first point is brutal. I suggest you apologize.
And I would suggest learning how to configure your software before coming here and stirring shit. But we can't always get what we want
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Cool, so you can finally admit you set Plex up wrong. Good job.
But somehow it's still Plex's fault
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And I would suggest learning how to configure your software before coming here and stirring shit. But we can't always get what we want
Yeah sure. Because a company paywalling functions has anything to do with network configuration.
What people like you dont understand is that there is no minimum requirement of knowledge to selfhost. It is completely braindead how often i have to tell people how a network works and now i have to explain to people why software configuration is not network configuration.
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If you don't set it to host, the docker container is in a different ip range than your tv. That's why it assumes it's not in the same network (which it isn't)
Sure, but they have a setting to fix this by letting Plex know that 192.168.0.x range is local network (as if it needed it) except it's behind a paywall.
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So instead of a service that works, I now have:
- an inferior (and incomplete) client experience, unless I spend money
- an additional device to allow the client to connect to Jellyfin, because I can't safely expose it to the internet
- the responsibility to keep all that additional stuff working for myself and everyone of my friends/family members
sounds like a great deal
Your complaining that the free stuff isn't as good as the paid?
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Your complaining that the free stuff isn't as good as the paid?
No, I'm complaining about people who act like Jellyfin is a drop in replacement while ignoring everything that would make it harder to user than Plex. I like Jellyfin and I would like nothing better than to have it as my disposal should POlex actually turn evil one day. But the current state is just not feasible if you want a seamless transition.
I live in a country with a very active and litigious copyright lawyer scene, so I will not take the risk of my server exposing the contents of my library, even if that is a minor risk.
When I can run Jellyfin and expose it through a subdomain, I will. But the devs have made it clear that that won't be anytime soon, since they would rather have an insecure app than break compatibility with clients
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I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.
I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.
I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.
Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.
Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.
In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.
This is the reason I didn't go with Plex when I was setting up my server.
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I'm actually not 100% sure how to answer that. It's just a "share" configured through the Unraid UI, being accessed by a docker container running on the same machine (binhex's Jellyfin image.) I think that the "share" in this context is essentially just a mount point, but it's also (optionally) exposed as an SMB share externally.
Ahh OK, a Docker bind. 3 things to check:
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That you added the folders in that weird way Unraod requires, see: https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-solved-jellyfin-not-detecting-media-in-unraid (this probably isn't it, but worth checking)
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Make sure for newly added, Jellyfin is configured for Date File Scanned into Library, vs the Created Date on the file
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Ensure the Arrs aren't set to change the date on file import. By default they modify created/modified dates to be the release date, which can put things in an unexpected order.
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I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.
I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.
I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.
Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.
Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.
In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.
Im using it locally with no subscription or any payment and it works fine. I stream to other smart tvs on the house not my phone though. If its connected to the local lan you shouldn't have this issue.
